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i have medicare b but just got full health coverage through work, what should i do with medicare b

by Prof. Lyda Zieme Sr. Published 2 years ago Updated 1 year ago
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Yes, you should be able to enroll in your Medicare Part B a few months in advance and select a future Part B start date. That way you can time it that when your work coverage ends, your Medicare Part B (and any supplemental or drug coverage you may purchase) all start at the same time.

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Do I need Medicare Part B If I have insurance?

For starters, people who are still working when they qualify for Medicare may not need to get Part B coverage right away. If you have insurance through your employer, then you most likely already have medical coverage.

Can I sign up for Medicare Part B If I quit work?

You can wait until you stop working (or lose your health insurance, if that happens first) to sign up for Part B, and you won’t pay a late enrollment penalty. I (or my spouse) get a stipend from my employer to buy my own health insurance.

When should I sign up for Medicare Part B?

If you don’t have to pay a premium for Part A, you can choose to sign up when you turn 65 (or anytime later). You can wait until you stop working (or lose your health insurance, if that happens first) to sign up for Part B, and you won’t pay a late enrollment penalty.

How does Medicare work with my employer’s insurance?

If Medicare pays secondary to your insurance through your employer, your employer’s insurance pays first. Medicare covers any remaining costs. Depending on your employer’s size, Medicare will work with your employer’s health insurance coverage in different ways.

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Can you have Medicare and employer insurance at the same time?

Thus, you can keep Medicare and employer coverage. The size of your employer determines whether your coverage will be creditable once you retire and are ready to enroll in Medicare Part B. If your employer has 20 or more employees, Medicare will deem your group coverage creditable.

Can you get Medicare Part B while still employed?

You may be required to get Medicare Part B even when you're still working. There are two situations in which you must get Part B when you turn 65. If your employer has fewer than 20 employees. If you're covered by a spouse's employer, and the employer requires covered dependents to enroll in Medicare when they turn 65.

Do you get your Medicare taken away if you start working?

During the first 9 months that you work in a rolling 5-year period, you continue to receive full benefits, including Medicare, if the waiting period has passed, regardless of how much you earn, as long as you report your work activity to Social Security and continue to have a disabling impairment.

Are you automatically enrolled in Medicare Part B?

Medicare will enroll you in Part B automatically. Your Medicare card will be mailed to you about 3 months before your 65th birthday. If you're not getting disability benefits and Medicare when you turn 65, you'll need to call or visit your local Social Security office, or call Social Security at 1-800-772-1213.

How do I pay for Medicare Part B if I am still working?

4 ways to pay your Medicare premium bill:Pay online through your secure Medicare account (fastest way to pay). ... Sign up for Medicare Easy Pay. ... Pay directly from your savings or checking account through your bank's online bill payment service. ... Mail your payment to Medicare.

How long does it take for Medicare Part B to be approved?

Medicare Part B FAQs How long does it take to get Medicare Part B after applying? Approval can take up to 30-60 days if you apply outside your Initial Enrollment Period and do not automatically enroll in Medicare.

How does working affect Medicare?

It depends on how you get your health insurance now and the number of employees that are in the company where you (or your spouse) work. Generally, if you have job-based health insurance through your (or your spouse's) current job, you don't have to sign up for Medicare while you (or your spouse) are still working.

Can Medicare Part B be Cancelled?

You can voluntarily terminate your Medicare Part B (medical insurance). It is a serious decision. You must submit Form CMS-1763 (PDF, Download Adobe Reader) to the Social Security Administration (SSA). Visit or call the SSA (1-800-772-1213) to get this form.

What happens if you don't enroll in Medicare Part A at 65?

If you don't have to pay a Part A premium, you generally don't have to pay a Part A late enrollment penalty. The Part A penalty is 10% added to your monthly premium. You generally pay this extra amount for twice the number of years that you were eligible for Part A but not enrolled.

How do I add Part B to my Medicare?

Fill out Form CMS-40B (Application for Enrollment in Medicare Part B). Send the completed form to your local Social Security office by fax or mail. Call 1-800-772-1213. TTY users can call 1-800-325-0778.

Do you have to enroll in Medicare Part B every year?

Do You Need to Renew Medicare Part B every year? As long as you pay the Medicare Part B medical insurance premiums, you'll continue to have the coverage. The premium is subtracted monthly from most people's Social Security payments. If you don't get Social Security, you'll get a bill.

Can I get Medicare Part B for free?

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How many people can you work and still be eligible for Medicare?

Here are the two most common, basic situations when you still work but become eligible for Medicare: Your employer employs more than 20 people. As an employee who is turning 65, you have the option to continue with the employer’s group health plan until you retire.

How many people can you have to sign up for Medicare?

Businesses who employ less than 20 people are legally allowed to require employees to sign up for both Medicare Parts A and B once eligible. At that time, Medicare would then become your primary insurance.

When do you need to sign up for Medicare?

If the employer has less than 20 employees: You might need to sign up for Medicare when you turn 65 so you don’t have gaps in your job-based health insurance. Check with the employer.

What happens if you don't sign up for Part A and Part B?

If you don’t sign up for Part A and Part B, your job-based insurance might not cover the costs for services you get.

Do I need to get Medicare drug coverage (Part D)?

You can get Medicare drug coverage once you sign up for either Part A or Part B. You can join a Medicare drug plan or Medicare Advantage Plan with drug coverage anytime while you have job-based health insurance, and up to 2 months after you lose that insurance.

What is a Medicare leave period?

A period of time when you can join or leave a Medicare-approved plan.

Do you have to tell Medicare if you have non-Medicare coverage?

Each year, your plan must tell you if your non-Medicare drug coverage is creditable coverage. Keep this information — you may need it when you’re ready to join a Medicare drug plan.

Does Medicare work if you are still working?

If you (or your spouse) are still working, Medicare works a little differently. Here are some things to know if you’re still working when you turn 65.

Does private insurance pay for services?

Some private insurance has rules that lower what they pay (or don’t pay at all) for services you get if you’re eligible for other coverage, like Medicare.

What is covered by Medicare Part B?

In addition, Part B may cover other medical procedures and treatments that fall within the necessary or preventive range. Ambulance services, clinical research, mental health counseling and some prescription drugs for outpatient treatment may all be covered under Medicare Part B.

Why don't people enroll in Medicare Part B?

And some people choose not to enroll in Medicare Part B, because they don’t want to pay for medical coverage they feel they don’t need. There are a variety of reasons why you might hesitate to pay for medical insurance. Likewise, you may be concerned about how the new healthcare laws affect Medicare Part B coverage.

How to reduce Medicare premiums?

One such way is to enroll in a Medicare Savings Program. Run by individual states in conjunction with Medicare, Medicare Savings Plans help you pay for medical costs associated with deductibles, coinsurance and copayments, in some cases. There are four Medicare Savings Programs available, but only three of them relate to Medicare Part B. They are:

What happens if you miss your Medicare enrollment window?

What happens if you miss your initial enrollment window? If you delay Medicare Part B enrollment, then you’ll have to wait to enroll when the general enrollment period starts. In this example, your birthday is March 8. Because you missed your initial window, you’ll have to wait until January of the following year to enroll and July of the following year to start receiving coverage.

How much does Medicare pay if you make less than $500,000?

Individuals who earn more than $163,000 but less than $500,000 per year will pay $462.70 in Medicare Part B premiums per month. If you earn $500,000 per year or more, your Medicare Part B premium will be $491.60 per month. These amounts reflect individual incomes only.

How long do you have to be in Medicare to get Medicare Part B?

You have a seven-month initial period to enroll in Medicare Part B. The seven months include the three months prior to your 65th birthday, the month containing your 65th birthday and the three months that follow your birthday month. If you turn 65 on March 8, then you have from December 1 to June 30 to enroll in Medicare Part B.

How much is Medicare Part B in 2021?

That premium changes each year, usually increasing. In 2021, the Part B premium is $148.50 a month. You’ll also have an annual deductible of $203 in 2021 (an increase from the $198 deductible in 2020).

What are the benefits of Medicare?

Expanded Medicare benefits for preventive care, drug coverage 1 Medicare benefits have expanded under the health care law – things like free preventive benefits, cancer screenings, and an annual wellness visit. 2 You can also save money if you’re in the prescription drug “donut hole” with discounts on brand-name prescription drugs.

How long do you have to sign up for Part B?

During the 8-month period that begins the month after the job or the coverage ends, whichever happens first.

Is Medicare part of the Marketplace?

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Does the Shop Marketplace cover my spouse's health insurance?

Yes. Coverage from an employer through the SHOP Marketplace is treated the same as coverage from any job-based health plan. If you’re getting health coverage from an employer through the SHOP Marketplace based on your or your spouse’s current job, Medicare Secondary Payer rules apply. Learn more about how Medicare works with other insurance.

Is Medicare Advantage changing?

Yes. The Medicare Advantage program isn’t changing as a result of the health care law. Learn more about Medicare Advantage plans.

Does Medicare Part B meet the Medicare Part B requirement?

But having only Medicare Part B (Medical Insurance) doesn’t meet this requirement.

Can you get Medicare if you have ESRD?

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How does Medicare work with other insurance?

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When is Medicare paid first?

When you’re eligible for or entitled to Medicare because you have End-Stage Renal Disease (ESRD), during a coordination period of up to 30 months, the group health plan or retiree coverage pays first and Medicare pays second. You can have group health plan coverage or retiree coverage based on your employment or through a family member.

What is a Medicare company?

The company that acts on behalf of Medicare to collect and manage information on other types of insurance or coverage that a person with Medicare may have, and determine whether the coverage pays before or after Medicare. This company also acts on behalf of Medicare to obtain repayment when Medicare makes a conditional payment, and the other payer is determined to be primary.

How long does it take for Medicare to pay a claim?

If the insurance company doesn't pay the claim promptly (usually within 120 days), your doctor or other provider may bill Medicare. Medicare may make a conditional payment to pay the bill, and then later recover any payments the primary payer should have made. If Medicare makes a. conditional payment.

What is a group health plan?

If the. group health plan. In general, a health plan offered by an employer or employee organization that provides health coverage to employees and their families.

What is the difference between primary and secondary insurance?

The insurance that pays first (primary payer) pays up to the limits of its coverage. The one that pays second (secondary payer) only pays if there are costs the primary insurer didn't cover. The secondary payer (which may be Medicare) may not pay all the uncovered costs.

How many employees does a spouse have to have to be on Medicare?

Your spouse’s employer must have 20 or more employees, unless the employer has less than 20 employees, but is part of a multi-employer plan or multiple employer plan. If the group health plan didn’t pay all of your bill, the doctor or health care provider should send the bill to Medicare for secondary payment.

How long does Medicare coverage last?

This special period lasts for eight months after the first month you go without your employer’s health insurance. Many people avoid having a coverage gap by signing up for Medicare the month before your employer’s health insurance coverage ends.

What is a small group health plan?

Since your employer has less than 20 employees, Medicare calls this employer health insurance coverage a small group health plan. If your employer’s insurance covers more than 20 employees, Medicare will pay secondary and call your work-related coverage a Group Health Plan (GHP).

Does Medicare pay second to employer?

Your health insurance through your employer will pay second and cover either some or all of the costs left over. If Medicare pays secondary to your insurance through your employer, your employer’s insurance pays first. Medicare covers any remaining costs. Depending on your employer’s size, Medicare will work with your employer’s health insurance ...

Is Medicare the primary or secondary payer?

The first thing you want to think about is whether Medicare will be the primary or secondary payer to your current insurance through your employer. If Medicare is primary, it means that Medicare will pay any health expenses first. Your health insurance through your employer will pay second and cover either some or all of the costs left over. If Medicare pays secondary to your insurance through your employer, your employer’s insurance pays first. Medicare covers any remaining costs.

Does Medicare cover health insurance?

Medicare covers any remaining costs. Depending on your employer’s size, Medicare will work with your employer’s health insurance coverage in different ways. If your company has 20 employees or less and you’re over 65, Medicare will pay primary. Since your employer has less than 20 employees, Medicare calls this employer health insurance coverage ...

Can an employer refuse to pay Medicare?

The first problem is that your employer can legally refuse to make any health-related medical payments until Medicare pays first. If you delay coverage and your employer’s health insurance pays primary when it was supposed to be secondary and pick up any leftover costs, it could recoup payments.

What Happens to My Medicare if I Go Back to Work?

Often, you might retire and later go back to work. If you pause your retirement and your large employer offers you group insurance, you can cancel Part B. When you retire again; you can enroll back into Part B with no penalties.

What happens if you don't have Part B insurance?

If you don’t, your employer’s group plan can refuse to pay your claims. Your insurance might cover claims even if you don’t have Part B, but we always recommend enrolling in Part B. Your carrier can change that at any time, with no warning, leaving you responsible for outpatient costs.

Does Medicare Work With Health Savings Accounts?

When enrolled in any Medicare parts, you CANNOT contribute to a Health Savings Account (HSA). Your employer also can’t contribute to your HSA once your Medicare is active. If you continue to add to your HSA, you could face tax penalties.

What Forms Do I Need to Show Creditable Coverage From an Employer?

You will need your employer to fill out the CMS-L564 form . This form is a request for employment information form. Once the employer completes section B of the form, you can send in the document with your application to enroll in Medicare.

What happens if you leave Medicare without a creditable coverage letter?

Without creditable coverage during the time you’ve been Medicare-eligible, you’ll incur late enrollment penalties. When you leave your group health coverage, the insurance carrier will mail you a creditable coverage letter. You’ll need to show this letter to Medicare to protect yourself from late penalties.

What determines if you are a primary or secondary employer for Medicare?

The size of your employer will determine how your Medicare benefits will coordinate with your employer coverage. If you’re aging into Medicare while working for an employer with over 20 employees, your group plan is primary and Medicare secondary.

How many employees are eligible for creditable insurance?

For your outpatient and medication insurance, a plan from an employer with over 20 employees is creditable coverage. This safeguards you from having to pay late enrollment penalties for Part B and Part D, respectively.

How much does Medicare Part B cost?

Part B is different. Unlike Part A, Medicare Part B has a monthly premium, which can cost $148.50 to $504.90 depending on income. It has a late enrollment penalty for anybody who enrolls without qualifying for a Special Enrollment Period.

When do you have to enroll in Medicare Part B?

When You Must Enroll in Medicare Part B. You may be required to get Medicare Part B even when you’re still working. There are two situations in which you must get Part B when you turn 65. If your employer has fewer than 20 employees. If you’re covered by a spouse’s employer, and the employer requires covered dependents to enroll in Medicare ...

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How long does it take to enroll in Medicare if you lose your employer?

When you lose your employer coverage, you will get an 8-month Special Enrollment Period during which to enroll in Medicare Part B, and Part A if you haven’t done so already. You’ll also be able to enroll in a Medicare Advantage (Part C) plan or Part D prescription drug plan in the first two months of this period.

When do dependents have to enroll in Medicare?

If you’re covered by a spouse’s employer, and the employer requires covered dependents to enroll in Medicare when they turn 65. If you’re not married but living in a domestic partnership and are covered by your partner’s employer health insurance.

Can you build up balances in HSA?

PHIL: So you can build up some pretty big balances in an HSA, and I've actually advised people in some settings to not use their HSA.

Can you fund a medical expense with pre-tax money?

PHIL: Not only can you fund it with pre-tax dollars, but you can spend those dollars on any qualified health expense, and you will not incur a taxable event when you spend the money.

What are the benefits of getting Medicare while I am working?

If you’re unhappy with your current insurance, you might prefer the Medicare coverage. For example, your private health insurance may restrict you to a small network of doctors, while 99% of nonpediatric physicians accept Medicare. Switching to Medicare may also save you money on out-of-pocket costs versus your existing plan.

How much is Medicare Part B in 2021?

While Medicare Part A is free, Medicare Part B — which covers doctor visits and outpatient medical supplies — requires you to pay a monthly premium (in 2021, the premium is $148.50 per month for most enrollees; high earners may pay more). If you keep your existing insurance, you could end up paying premiums for two policies, which could get expensive.

What happens if you don't have employer based insurance?

If you don’t have employer-based insurance, or your employer has fewer than 20 employees, declining Medicare now means you’ll end up paying higher premiums each month when you do finally enroll:

What age does Medicare cover?

Medicare is the federal health insurance program that covers people age 65 and older as well as some younger people with disabilities or specific health conditions. If you’re still working at 65 and covered by your employer plan, several factors will affect your Medicare enrollment status:

What happens if you don't have creditable coverage?

The quality of your drug coverage: If your health insurance doesn’t include “ creditable drug coverage ,” as defined by Medicare, you’ll need to purchase a stand-alone drug plan that meets those standards. Going without this level of prescription drug coverage for more than a few months will cause Medicare to charge you a late enrollment penalty on top of your Part D premium after you sign up.

How long can you delay Medicare enrollment?

As soon as one of those events occurs, you’ll enter Medicare’s 8-month special enrollment period .

Is Medicare a good option?

Enrolling in Medicare could be a good option if your current workplace coverage doesn’t meet your needs or if you think secondary coverage would be helpful.

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