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if i am retired and has medicare and blue cross who is my primary insurance when billing

by Eladio Nader DDS Published 2 years ago Updated 2 years ago

Medicare works best with your Service Benefit Plan coverage when Medicare Parts A and B (also known as Original Medicare) are your primarycoverage. That means Medicare pays for your service first, and then we pay our portion (secondary coverage). Usually if you’re retired, Medicare is primary.

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What does it mean when Medicare is primary coverage?

That means Medicare pays for your service first, and then we pay our portion (secondary coverage). Usually if you’re retired, Medicare is primary. If you’re still actively working, we’re your primary coverage.

How does retiree coverage work with Medicare Part A and B?

Retiree coverage might not pay your medical costs during any period in which you were eligible for Medicare but didn't sign up for it. When you become eligible for Medicare, you will need to enroll in both Medicare Part A and Part B to get full benefits from your retiree coverage. How does your retiree coverage work with Medicare?

Will FEHB be my primary insurance if I don’t enroll in Medicare?

As a federal retiree, if you don’t enroll in Medicare, your FEHB plan will act as your primary insurer and won’t pay less because you qualify for Medicare. Will FEHB be my primary coverage? or Medicare?

How does Medicare work with other insurance?

How Medicare works with other insurance. If you have Medicare and other health insurance or coverage, each type of coverage is called a "payer.". When there's more than one payer, " Coordination of benefits " rules decide which one pays first. The "primary payer" pays what it owes on your bills first, and then sends the rest to...

How do I know if my Medicare is primary or secondary?

Medicare is always primary if it's your only form of coverage. When you introduce another form of coverage into the picture, there's predetermined coordination of benefits. The coordination of benefits will determine what form of coverage is primary and what form of coverage is secondary.

How do you determine who is primary on insurance?

If you have Medicare and other health insurance or coverage, each type of coverage is called a "payer." When there is more than one payer, "coordination of benefits" rules decide which one pays first. The "primary payer" pays what it owes on your bills first, and then sends the rest to the "secondary payer" to pay.

Who is primary payer with Medicare?

Medicare pays first and your group health plan (retiree) coverage pays second . If the employer has 100 or more employees, then the large group health plan pays first, and Medicare pays second .

When two insurance which one is primary?

If you have two plans, your primary insurance is your main insurance. Except for company retirees on Medicare, the health insurance you receive through your employer is typically considered your primary health insurance plan.

How does it work when you have two insurances?

Secondary insurance: once your primary insurance has paid its share, the remaining bill goes to your “secondary” insurance, if you have more than one health plan. Your secondary insurance may cover part or all of the remaining cost.

What is the process of determining which company is primary and which is secondary?

This process is called coordination of benefits. Coordination of benefits decides which plan pays first (the primary plan) and which pays second (the secondary plan). In some cases, a state or the federal government may set up the COB regulations. Large employer group plans create their own COB rules, too.

Can you have Medicare and employer insurance at the same time?

Can I have Medicare and employer coverage at the same time? Yes, you can have both Medicare and employer-provided health insurance. In most cases, you will become eligible for Medicare coverage when you turn 65, even if you are still working and enrolled in your employer's health plan.

Does Medicare automatically forward claims to secondary insurance?

If a Medicare member has secondary insurance coverage through one of our plans (such as the Federal Employee Program, Medex, a group policy, or coverage through a vendor), Medicare generally forwards claims to us for processing.

When BCBS payers for the primary and secondary policies are different?

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What is primary insurance name?

Primary insurance is health insurance that pays first on a claim for medical and hospital care. In most cases, Medicare is your primary insurer.

Can you have two health insurances at the same time?

While it sounds confusing, having dual insurance like this is perfectly legal—you just need to make sure you're coordinating your two benefits correctly to make sure your medical expenses are being covered compliantly.

What is secondary insurance in medical billing?

Secondary health insurance is coverage you can buy separately from a medical plan. It helps cover you for care and services that your primary medical plan may not. This secondary insurance could be a vision plan, dental plan, or an accidental injury plan, to name a few.

When is Medicare Primary?

For the most part, when you have more than one form of coverage, Medicare is primary. Some examples include having group coverage through a smaller employer, COBRA, being on inactive duty with TRICARE, or Medicaid. Usually, secondary insurance will only pay if the primary insurance paid its portion first.

How to learn more about Medicare?

How to Learn More About Your Medicare Options. Primary insurance isn't too hard to understand; it's just knowing which insurance pays the claim first. Medical billing personnel can always help you figure it out if you're having trouble. While it's not hard to understand primary insurance, Medicare is its own beast.

What is secondary insurance?

Secondary insurance helps cover out-of-pocket costs left over after your primary coverage pays their portion. There are a few common scenarios when Medicare is secondary. An example includes having group coverage through a larger employer with more than 20 employees.

Is Medicare a part of tricare?

Medicare is primary to TRICARE. If you have Part A, you need Part B to remain eligible for TRICARE. But, Part D isn’t a requirement. Also, TRICARE covers your prescriptions. Your TRICARE will be similar to a Medigap plan; it covers deductibles and coinsurances.

Is Cobra coverage creditable?

Another key fact to know is that COBRA is not creditable coverage. If you’re eligible for Medicare and do not enroll, you’ll incur late enrollment penalties since COBRA is not considered as good as Medicare. You’ll need to enroll in Medicare within the first eight months you have COBRA, even if your COBRA coverage is active longer than eight months.

Can you have Medicare and Cobra at the same time?

There are scenarios when you’ll have Medicare and COBRA at the same time. The majority of the time, Medicare will be primary and COBRA will be secondary. The exception to this is if your group coverage has special rules that determine the primary payer.

Is Cobra better than Medicare?

It’s not common for COBRA to be the better option for an individual who’s eligible for Medicare. This is because COBRA is more expensive than Medicare. Once you enroll in Medicare, you can drop your COBRA coverage.

What is Medicare for people 65 and older?

Medicare. Medicare is the federal health insurance program for: People who are 65 or older. Certain younger people with disabilities. People with End-Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure requiring dialysis or a transplant, sometimes called ESRD) and. group health plan.

Does stop loss cover out of pocket costs?

It might only provide "stop loss" coverage, which starts paying your. out-of-pocket costs. Health or prescription drug costs that you must pay on your own because they aren’t covered by Medicare or other insurance. only when they reach a maximum amount.

Does retirement insurance include extra benefits?

and deductibles. Sometimes retiree coverage includes extra benefits, like coverage for extra days in the hospital.

How does Medicare work with other insurance?

When there's more than one payer, "coordination of benefits" rules decide which one pays first. The "primary payer" pays what it owes on your bills first, and then sends the rest to the "secondary payer" (supplemental payer) ...

When is Medicare paid first?

When you’re eligible for or entitled to Medicare because you have End-Stage Renal Disease (ESRD), during a coordination period of up to 30 months, the group health plan or retiree coverage pays first and Medicare pays second. You can have group health plan coverage or retiree coverage based on your employment or through a family member.

What is a Medicare company?

The company that acts on behalf of Medicare to collect and manage information on other types of insurance or coverage that a person with Medicare may have, and determine whether the coverage pays before or after Medicare. This company also acts on behalf of Medicare to obtain repayment when Medicare makes a conditional payment, and the other payer is determined to be primary.

How long does it take for Medicare to pay a claim?

If the insurance company doesn't pay the claim promptly (usually within 120 days), your doctor or other provider may bill Medicare. Medicare may make a conditional payment to pay the bill, and then later recover any payments the primary payer should have made. If Medicare makes a. conditional payment.

What is the difference between primary and secondary insurance?

The insurance that pays first (primary payer) pays up to the limits of its coverage. The one that pays second (secondary payer) only pays if there are costs the primary insurer didn't cover. The secondary payer (which may be Medicare) may not pay all the uncovered costs.

How many employees does a spouse have to have to be on Medicare?

Your spouse’s employer must have 20 or more employees, unless the employer has less than 20 employees, but is part of a multi-employer plan or multiple employer plan. If the group health plan didn’t pay all of your bill, the doctor or health care provider should send the bill to Medicare for secondary payment.

Which pays first, Medicare or group health insurance?

If you have group health plan coverage through an employer who has 20 or more employees, the group health plan pays first, and Medicare pays second.

What is the difference between Medicare and Medicaid?

Eligible for Medicare. Medicare. Medicaid ( payer of last resort) 1 Liability insurance only pays on liability-related medical claims. 2 VA benefits and Medicare do not work together. Medicare does not pay for any care provided at a VA facility, and VA benefits typically do not work outside VA facilities.

Is Medicare a secondary insurance?

When you have Medicare and another type of insurance, Medicare is either your primary or secondary insurer. Use the table below to learn how Medicare coordinates with other insurances. Go Back. Type of Insurance. Conditions.

How long can you join a health insurance plan?

You can join a plan anytime while you have job-based health insurance, and up to 2 months after you lose that insurance.

What is a Medicare leave period?

A period of time when you can join or leave a Medicare-approved plan.

What happens if you miss the 8 month special enrollment period?

If you miss this 8-month Special Enrollment Period, you’ll have to wait to sign up and go months without coverage. You might also pay a monthly penalty for as long as you have Part B. The penalty goes up the longer you wait to sign up.

When does the 8 month special enrollment period start?

Your 8-month Special Enrollment Period starts when you stop working, even if you choose COBRA or other coverage that’s not Medicare.

Do you have to tell Medicare if you have non-Medicare coverage?

Each year your plan must tell you if your non-Medicare drug coverage is creditable coverage. Keep this information — you may need it when you’re ready to join a Medicare drug plan. (Don’t send this information to Medicare.)

Does Cobra end with Medicare?

Your COBRA coverage will probably end when you sign up for Medicare. (If you get Medicare because you have End-Stage Renal Disease and your COBRA coverage continues, it will pay first.)

Do I need to get Medicare drug coverage (Part D)?

Prescription drug coverage that provides the same value to Medicare Part D. It could include drug coverage from a current or former employer or union, TRICARE, Indian Health Service, VA, or individual health insurance coverage.

How to contact Medicare for service benefits?

or call 1-800-MEDICARE (TTY: 1-877-486-2048) . << Previous Next >>. 3. Combining your Service Benefit Plan coverage with Medicare is a choice. Here are some things to know that can help you decide: Keep your future healthcare needs in mind before making a decision.

When do you pay Medicare cost share?

Nothing up to day 30. You pay the Medicare cost share beginning day 31. No benefit. You pay the Medicare cost share.

What is Medicare for people over 65?

GET TO KNOW MEDICARE. Medicare is a health insurance program provided by the federal government, available to people: • 65 and older • Under 65 with certain disabilities • With permanent kidney failure who need dialysis treatment or a transplant (End-Stage Renal Disease) .

What is Part D coverage?

Part D. Prescription drug coverage Covers prescriptions which aren’t included in Part A and B coverage Benefits and premiums vary based on the plan you choose. To learn more about Medicare coverage and premiums, visit medicare.gov . or call 1-800-MEDICARE (TTY: 1-877-486-2048). << Previous Next >>. 3.

What is Blue365 discount?

Through the program, you can get discounts on different products and services that can help you live a healthy lifestyle, such as diet and exercise plans, gym shoes and athletic apparel, hearing aids and more. View all the current available deals at

What is Blue365 for Blue Cross?

Blue365 is a discount program exclusively for Blue Cross and Blue Shield members. Through the program, you can get discounts on different products and services that can help you live a healthy lifestyle, such as diet and exercise plans, gym shoes and athletic apparel, hearing aids and more.

How much is the penalty for delay in Medicare?

The penalty is a 10% premium increase for each year you choose to delay your enrollment. So, if you decide to enroll five years after you’re first eligible, your premium would be 50% higher than it would be if you had taken Medicare initially. There is an exception to this.

When should I change my FEHB coverage?

You may want to make changes to your FEHB coverage when you are nearing Medicare eligibility, and will have the option to do this starting 30 days before you qualify for Medicare. Changes can only be made once during this window. You can also wait until FEHB Open Season to change your coverage.

What happens if I decline FEHB coverage?

If you decline FEHB coverage, you would give up the subsidy the government pays toward it, which ranges from a low of about $350 for self-only coverage to $1,000 or more if you’re also covering family members. (These amounts are from premiums for federal employees other the Postal Service, which pays different rates.) If your family members are covered under FEHB, their coverage would end if you terminate yours.

Will I pay less for FEHB premiums if I enroll in Medicare?

FEHB premiums are not reduced if you enroll in Medicare, but having Medicare Part A and B can allow you to switch to a less expensive version of your current FEHB plan, because some FEHB insurers waive cost sharing (like deductibles, co-pays and coinsurance) when you have Medicare Parts A and B. Contact your FEHB insurer if you’re wondering whether your plan waives cost sharing for people enrolled in Medicare.

Should I enroll in Medicare Part D if I have FEHB coverage?

You generally don’t have to sign up for a Part D plan if you are covered through FEHB. The prescription coverage through your FEHB plan may have fewer restrictions (like quantity limits or drugs requiring prior-authorization) than the Part D plans in your area. FEHB plans limit what you’ll have to pay each year in covered medical and prescription drug costs, but Part D plans do not. (Part D enrollees pay an uncapped 5 percent coinsurance after they reach the catastrophic coverage level .) If you do sign up for Part D, it will usually be your primary insurer.

What is the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program (FEHB)?

The FEHB provides comprehensive health insurance to federal retirees and their spouses. If you qualify for FEHB as a retiree, optional Medicare coverage can lower your out-of-pocket costs, but you’ll have to pay a premium for this extra coverage.

Should I suspend my FEHB cover to enroll in other coverage?

You can suspend your enrollment in FEHB to enroll in Medicare Advantage or other eligible coverage by contacting your agency’s retirement system, and providing them documentation that you enrolled. If you do this, you’ll be allowed to leave your Medicare Advantage plan and return to FEHB. You usually have to wait until Medicare’s fall open enrollment and FEHB’s Open Season to re-enroll in FEHB. (These periods coincide.) You won’t have to wait until an enrollment period if your Medicare Advantage plan ends through no fault of your own. In that case, you could re-enroll between 31 days before and 60 days after your Medicare Advantage plan ends. The FEHB coverage would begin the day after the Advantage plan terminates.

Is FEHB covered by Medicare?

While FEHB plans cover most of the same types of expenses that Medicare covers, FEHB plans’ coverage may be more limited than Medicare Part B when it comes to orthopedic and prosthetic devices , durable medical equipment, home healthcare, medical supplies, and chiropractic care.

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