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if you have insurance coverage through a spouse but you have medicare which insurance is primary

by Benton Ledner Published 1 year ago Updated 1 year ago
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If your spouse’s company has fewer than 20 employees, then Medicare generally becomes the primary payer at age 65 and the employer’s coverage is secondary. This means that Medicare pays your bills first and the employer’s plan pays only for services it covers but Medicare doesn’t.

If the employer offers coverage to spouses, it must offer the same coverage to spouses 65 and older that they offer to spouses under 65. In general, a group health plan that's sponsored jointly by 2 or more employers. , then Medicare pays first, and the group health plan pays second.

Full Answer

Does My Medicare insurance cover my spouse?

Your personal Medicare insurance policy does not cover anyone but you. Your spouse or family members cannot be included in your coverage. For your spouse to have Medicare coverage, he or she must have a separate, individual policy.

Is Medicare primary insurance or secondary insurance?

As long as you work for a small employer, Medicare is primary. If the company has over 20 employees, Medicare is secondary. If you’re not sure, talk to the benefits administrator in the office where you work.

Can you have both Medicare and private insurance?

It’s possible to have both Medicare and private insurance. You may have both if you’re covered under an employer-provided plan, COBRA, or TRICARE. If you have both Medicare and private insurance, there are guidelines about which provider pays first for your healthcare services.

When does my spouse become eligible to receive Medicare?

If your spouse is younger than 65 and receives disability benefits from Social Security for a period of 24 months, they automatically become eligible for Medicare on the 25th month. What Happens if Your Spouse is Older Than You?

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How do I know if my Medicare is primary or secondary?

Medicare pays first and your group health plan (retiree) coverage pays second . If the employer has 100 or more employees, then the large group health plan pays first, and Medicare pays second .

Is Medicare primary or secondary insurance?

Medicare is always primary if it's your only form of coverage. When you introduce another form of coverage into the picture, there's predetermined coordination of benefits. The coordination of benefits will determine what form of coverage is primary and what form of coverage is secondary.

Which insurance is primary if both spouses have health?

In general, when both spouses have insurance plans, your own plan is your primary insurance plan and your spouse's plan is your secondary insurance plan.

When two insurance which one is primary?

If you have two plans, your primary insurance is your main insurance. Except for company retirees on Medicare, the health insurance you receive through your employer is typically considered your primary health insurance plan.

How do you determine which health insurance is primary?

Primary insurance is a health insurance plan that covers a person as an employee, subscriber, or member. Primary insurance is billed first when you receive health care. For example, health insurance you receive through your employer is typically your primary insurance.

Does Medicare automatically forward claims to secondary insurance?

If a Medicare member has secondary insurance coverage through one of our plans (such as the Federal Employee Program, Medex, a group policy, or coverage through a vendor), Medicare generally forwards claims to us for processing.

How does it work when you have two health insurance policies?

If you have multiple health insurance policies, you'll have to pay any applicable premiums and deductibles for both plans. Your secondary insurance won't pay toward your primary's deductible. You may also owe other cost sharing or out-of-pocket costs, such as copayments or coinsurance.

Do husband and wife pay separate Medicare premiums?

You and your spouse pay separate premiums for Medicare benefits under Medicare Part B, and Medicare Part D if you sign up for it. If one or both of you choose to enroll in a Medicare Advantage plan, you will continue to pay separately the Medicare Part B premium and possibly a separate plan premium.

How does double health insurance work?

Dual coverage: You each sign up for coverage from your employer and you each cover each other, or the entire family, on your plan. This is called dual coverage. It will be more expensive to have two plans but it might provide more coverage in some cases.

Is Medicare a primary?

Even if you have a group health plan, Medicare is the primary insurer as long as you've been eligible for Medicare for 30 months or more.

Can you have two health insurances at the same time?

Yes, you can be covered by two health insurance plans. In some cases, each member of a couple might have health insurance through their employer. Children up to the age of 26 also might have coverage through their employer and their parents.

Is it smart to have two health insurance plans?

Having access to two health plans can be good when making health care claims. Having two health plans can increase how much coverage you get. You can save money on your health care costs through what's known as the "coordination of benefits" provision.

Who is the Primary Insurer, Your Group Plan or Medicare?

When health insurance claims are filed, there is typically a primary insurer (who pays first) and a secondary insurer (who pays second). Whether or not you should enroll in Part B depends on who is the primary insurer, Medicare or your group plan. How do you know? The number of people employed at your company is the deciding factor.

Sometimes Group Insurance Changes When You Become Eligible for Medicare

Even if you know that your employer will be the primary insurer, take a look at your benefits. Sometimes they change when you become eligible for Medicare. Read over your group coverage benefits to see how they work once you or your spouse turn 65. Then decide if it’s better for you to enroll in Part B now or delay enrollment.

What About Penalties, Will You Qualify for a Special Enrollment Period to Enroll in Medicare Later?

With group coverage, you qualify for a Special Enrollment Period. That means you can enroll in Part B after the Medicare Initial Enrollment Period. You have 8 months after group coverage ends to enroll in Medicare without paying a penalty.

Enrolling in Medicare at 65

If you want to enroll when you are turning 65, you can enroll in Medicare Parts A & B, Part D prescription drug coverage or a Medicare Advantage (Part C) plan. You can also look at adding a Medicare supplement insurance plan to Original Medicare (Parts A & B) to help with the out-of-pocket costs of Medicare.

Enrolling in Medicare Part A at 65

Many people who are covered by a spouse’s employer plan choose to either wait to enroll until they lose their spouse’s employer coverage or choose to only enroll in Part A since Part A usually has no premium.

Delaying Medicare Enrollment

Just because you are turning 65, doesn’t necessarily mean you have to get Medicare right now. If you decide that waiting to enroll in Medicare is the best option both financially and in terms of healthcare coverage for you, just follow Medicare’s rules, and you’ll avoid enrollment penalties when you do enroll.

When Would I Enroll If I Delay or Only Take Part A?

If you are able to delay enrolling in either all or part of Medicare, you will have a Special Enrollment Period of eight months that begins when the employer coverage is lost or when your spouse retires. During this time, you’ll be able to enroll in Medicare Parts A & B. You can also enroll in a Part D prescription drug plan.

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How many employees does a spouse have to have to be on Medicare?

Your spouse’s employer must have 20 or more employees, unless the employer has less than 20 employees, but is part of a multi-employer plan or multiple employer plan. If the group health plan didn’t pay all of your bill, the doctor or health care provider should send the bill to Medicare for secondary payment.

What is the difference between primary and secondary insurance?

The insurance that pays first (primary payer) pays up to the limits of its coverage. The one that pays second (secondary payer) only pays if there are costs the primary insurer didn't cover. The secondary payer (which may be Medicare) may not pay all the uncovered costs.

How long does it take for Medicare to pay a claim?

If the insurance company doesn't pay the claim promptly (usually within 120 days), your doctor or other provider may bill Medicare. Medicare may make a conditional payment to pay the bill, and then later recover any payments the primary payer should have made. If Medicare makes a. conditional payment.

How does Medicare work with other insurance?

When there's more than one payer, "coordination of benefits" rules decide which one pays first. The "primary payer" pays what it owes on your bills first, and then sends the rest to the "secondary payer" (supplemental payer) ...

When does Medicare pay for COBRA?

When you’re eligible for or entitled to Medicare due to End-Stage Renal Disease (ESRD), during a coordination period of up to 30 months, COBRA pays first. Medicare pays second, to the extent COBRA coverage overlaps the first 30 months of Medicare eligibility or entitlement based on ESRD.

What is the phone number for Medicare?

It may include the rules about who pays first. You can also call the Benefits Coordination & Recovery Center (BCRC) at 1-855-798-2627 (TTY: 1-855-797-2627).

What happens when there is more than one payer?

When there's more than one payer, "coordination of benefits" rules decide which one pays first. The "primary payer" pays what it owes on your bills first, and then sends the rest to the "secondary payer" (supplemental payer) to pay. In some rare cases, there may also be a third payer.

How old do you have to be to get Medicare?

In a case such as this, you must be at least 62 years old.

How long do you have to work to qualify for Medicare?

In the United States, as soon as you turn 65 you are eligible for Medicare benefits if you are citizen or have been a legal resident for five years or more and have worked for at least 40 quarters (10 years) paying federal taxes.

Can you get Medicare at different ages?

If you and your spouse are different ages, you will likely become eligible at different times. Primary Medicare recipients and their non-insured spouses are entitled to the same benefits under Medicare if both have reached the age of 65.

Do you have to enroll in Medicare Part B or D?

If you wish to sign up for Medicare Part B (Medical Insurance), and/or Part D (prescription drug insurance), you must enroll separately during your initial enrollment period, Open Enrollment or during Special Enrollment Period to avoid paying late enrollment penalties.

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