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should i opt out of my wifes employer heatlh insurance when i sign up for medicare

by Keyon Feeney Jr. Published 2 years ago Updated 1 year ago

Generally, if you have job-based health insurance through your (or your spouse’s) current job, you don’t have to sign up for Medicare while you (or your spouse) are still working. You can wait to sign up until you (or your spouse) stop working or you lose your health insurance (whichever comes first).

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Can I Drop my coverage at my spouse’s employer outside of open enrollment?

Q: It is open enrollment at my spouse’s employer. If my spouse adds me to their medical plan can I drop my coverage on my employer’s plan, even though it’s outside of our open enrollment? A: The IRS has rules ( 26 CFR § 1.125-4 – Permitted election changes) on what changes to pretax elections outside of open enrollment are permissible.

Can I get Medicare if my spouse is covered by my employer?

If you are covered by your spouse’s employer plan and eligible for Medicare, you may have a few options when it comes to getting Medicare. You can: Before making any decision though, you should always talk with the employer’s health care benefits department to understand how Medicare may or may not work with your current coverage.

Should I sign up for Medicare if my spouse is retired?

In other words, she or he is still working for the employer that provides the health coverage. So, even if your spouse receives terrific retiree health benefits after ceasing to work, both of you should consider signing up for Medicare (Parts A and B) at that time.

Can my spouse enroll in health insurance through my employer?

However, only 86 percent of those employers allow spouses to enroll if they have access to coverage from their own employer. And of those employers, 13 percent charge a higher premium for spouses who have access to their own employer’s coverage.

Can you have Medicare and employer insurance at the same time?

Yes, you can have both Medicare and employer-provided health insurance. In most cases, you will become eligible for Medicare coverage when you turn 65, even if you are still working and enrolled in your employer's health plan.

What happens to my spouse when I go on Medicare?

The answer is no. Medicare is individual insurance, so spouses cannot be on the same Medicare plan together. Now, if your spouse is eligible for Medicare, then he or she can get their own Medicare plan.

Do I need to enroll in Medicare Part B if my spouse is still working?

Generally, if you have job-based health insurance through your (or your spouse's) current job, you don't have to sign up for Medicare while you (or your spouse) are still working. You can wait to sign up until you (or your spouse) stop working or you lose your health insurance (whichever comes first).

Is Medicare primary or secondary insurance?

Medicare is always primary if it's your only form of coverage. When you introduce another form of coverage into the picture, there's predetermined coordination of benefits. The coordination of benefits will determine what form of coverage is primary and what form of coverage is secondary.

How does Medicare work for married couples?

Medicare has no family plans, meaning that you and your spouse must enroll for Medicare benefits separately. This also means husbands, wives, spouses and partners pay separate Medicare premiums.

Why is my Medicare premium higher than my husbands?

If you file your taxes as “married, filing jointly” and your MAGI is greater than $170,000, you'll pay higher premiums for your Part B and Medicare prescription drug coverage. If you file your taxes using a different status, and your MAGI is greater than $85,000, you'll pay higher premiums.

Is Medicare primary when spouse is still working?

Your spouse's plan pays first, and Medicare pays second when all of these conditions apply: You're retired, but your spouse is still working. You're covered by your spouse's group health plan coverage.

Do I automatically get Medicare when I turn 65?

Yes. If you are receiving benefits, the Social Security Administration will automatically sign you up at age 65 for parts A and B of Medicare. (Medicare is operated by the federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, but Social Security handles enrollment.)

Will I lose Medicare if I start working?

Under this law, how long will I get to keep Medicare if I return to work? As long as your disabling condition still meets our rules, you can keep your Medicare coverage for at least 8 ½ years after you return to work.

Is it necessary to have supplemental insurance with Medicare?

For many low-income Medicare beneficiaries, there's no need for private supplemental coverage. Only 19% of Original Medicare beneficiaries have no supplemental coverage. Supplemental coverage can help prevent major expenses.

Does Medicare Secondary cover primary copays?

Medicare is often the primary payer when working with other insurance plans. A primary payer is the insurer that pays a healthcare bill first. A secondary payer covers remaining costs, such as coinsurances or copayments.

What will Medicare not pay for?

In general, Original Medicare does not cover: Long-term care (such as extended nursing home stays or custodial care) Hearing aids. Most vision care, notably eyeglasses and contacts. Most dental care, notably dentures.

How long does it take to get a health insurance plan after losing a job?

So, if you lose your job after the regular open enrollment period has ended, you qualify for a special open enrollment of 60 days.

How long do you have to have health insurance after termination?

That being said, most employers are required to provide you access to its employer health insurance plan for at least 18 months after termination through COBRA (the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act).

What happens if you decline employer based insurance?

Note that if you decline your employer-based insurance, you'll forfeit any financial assistance your employer offers to cover its cost.

How much is work based health insurance?

Work-based coverage is considered "affordable" if the employee's share of the annual premium for the lowest-priced individual plan costs no more than 9.5% of annual household income. For that reason, premiums for your entire family can total more than 9.5% of your income, yet you still won't qualify for tax credits to buy insurance through a health insurance marketplace.

How much of your health care expenses must be covered by your employer?

Under the Affordable Care Act, employer sponsored plans must cover at least 60% of medical expenses for a "standard population.” In that case, the employee pays 40% of their health care expenses through deductibles, coinsurance and copayments. Your plan will state whether it meets the percentage requirement.

Can you save money with ACA subsidies?

The subsidies can save members hundreds of dollars each month, but they aren ’t available for plans outside of the ACA marketplace. "If you are self-employed or you do not have affordable options at work, an individual ACA or private marketplace plan may be the only option in your area.

Is employer sponsored health insurance cheaper than own?

Employer sponsored health insurance plans are often more affordable than seeking coverage on your own. But you aren't required to accept your company's health insurance coverage. There are scenarios in which it may make more sense to decline employer health insurance and opt for a plan through the Healthcare.gov marketplace, ...

What percentage of employers allow spouses to enroll in their own insurance?

However, only 86 percent of those employers allow spouses to enroll if they have access to coverage from their own employer. And of those employers, 13 percent charge a higher premium for spouses who have access to their own employer’s coverage. And this approach has been gaining popularity among employers.

Is it legal to have a spouse with ACA?

A. Yes, it is legal. The ACA requires employers with 50 or more workers to offer coverage to employees and their children (until age 26), but not spouses. But according to the Kaiser Family Foundation’s annual survey of employer-sponsored coverage, 95 percent of employers that offer health benefits extend that offer to employees’ spouses.

What happens if you delay Medicare benefits?

By delaying Medicare benefits, you won’t have a primary insurer, and what you pay out-of-pocket will be high. In companies with more than 20 employees: Your employer becomes the primary insurer, with Medicare coverage second.

When does group insurance change?

Sometimes Group Insurance Changes When You Become Eligible for Medicare. Even if you know that your employer will be the primary insurer, take a look at your benefits. Sometimes they change when you become eligible for Medicare. Read over your group coverage benefits to see how they work once you or your spouse turn 65.

Changing health coverage outside an open enrollment period

It can be tricky to change your coverage to a spouse’s policy outside of the open enrollment period. Your current policy’s coverage period may not match up with your spouse’s policy coverage period and you could be refused coverage until open enrollment rolls around again.

Special enrollment periods

An SEP lets you enroll in health coverage outside of the annual open enrollment period. Under specific circumstances, you may qualify to switch to your spouse’s health insurance during an SEP.

Conclusion

If you’d like to drop your current health coverage and switch to your spouse’s policy, or vice versa, your first step should be to review each policy carefully so you and your spouse can choose the coverage that works best for you.

Enrolling in Medicare at 65

If you want to enroll when you are turning 65, you can enroll in Medicare Parts A & B, Part D prescription drug coverage or a Medicare Advantage (Part C) plan. You can also look at adding a Medicare supplement insurance plan to Original Medicare (Parts A & B) to help with the out-of-pocket costs of Medicare.

Enrolling in Medicare Part A at 65

Many people who are covered by a spouse’s employer plan choose to either wait to enroll until they lose their spouse’s employer coverage or choose to only enroll in Part A since Part A usually has no premium.

Delaying Medicare Enrollment

Just because you are turning 65, doesn’t necessarily mean you have to get Medicare right now. If you decide that waiting to enroll in Medicare is the best option both financially and in terms of healthcare coverage for you, just follow Medicare’s rules, and you’ll avoid enrollment penalties when you do enroll.

When Would I Enroll If I Delay or Only Take Part A?

If you are able to delay enrolling in either all or part of Medicare, you will have a Special Enrollment Period of eight months that begins when the employer coverage is lost or when your spouse retires. During this time, you’ll be able to enroll in Medicare Parts A & B. You can also enroll in a Part D prescription drug plan.

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Why is open enrollment allowed under another employer plan?

The IRS allows open enrollment under another employer plan/different plan year to be a permissible midyear change event to help resolve “election gridlock”. Otherwise an employee would have to have double coverage or go without coverage for a period of time in order to “synch” up with the plan they want to be enrolled in.

Can an employer design a cafeteria plan?

An employer may design their plan to be as permissive as the IRS (which in my experience is the norm) but there is no requirement to recognize all of the permitted election changes. So, your employer’s Section 125/Cafeteria plan document is where one should look for which rules are permissible for an employee, based on your employer’s plan design.

How long does Medicare coverage last?

This special period lasts for eight months after the first month you go without your employer’s health insurance. Many people avoid having a coverage gap by signing up for Medicare the month before your employer’s health insurance coverage ends.

Does Medicare cover health insurance?

Medicare covers any remaining costs. Depending on your employer’s size, Medicare will work with your employer’s health insurance coverage in different ways. If your company has 20 employees or less and you’re over 65, Medicare will pay primary. Since your employer has less than 20 employees, Medicare calls this employer health insurance coverage ...

Does Medicare pay second to employer?

Your health insurance through your employer will pay second and cover either some or all of the costs left over. If Medicare pays secondary to your insurance through your employer, your employer’s insurance pays first. Medicare covers any remaining costs. Depending on your employer’s size, Medicare will work with your employer’s health insurance ...

Can an employer refuse to pay Medicare?

The first problem is that your employer can legally refuse to make any health-related medical payments until Medicare pays first. If you delay coverage and your employer’s health insurance pays primary when it was supposed to be secondary and pick up any leftover costs, it could recoup payments.

Do I need to sign up for Medicare when I turn 65?

It depends on how you get your health insurance now and the number of employees that are in the company where you (or your spouse) work.

How does Medicare work with my job-based health insurance?

Most people qualify to get Part A without paying a monthly premium. If you qualify, you can sign up for Part A coverage starting 3 months before you turn 65 and any time after you turn 65 — Part A coverage starts up to 6 months back from when you sign up or apply to get benefits from Social Security (or the Railroad Retirement Board).

Do I need to get Medicare drug coverage (Part D)?

You can get Medicare drug coverage once you sign up for either Part A or Part B. You can join a Medicare drug plan or Medicare Advantage Plan with drug coverage anytime while you have job-based health insurance, and up to 2 months after you lose that insurance.

What is the phone number for Medicare?

If you have an urgent matter or need enrollment assistance, call us at 800-930-7956. By submitting your question here, you agree that a licensed sales representative may respond to you about Medicare Advantage, Prescription Drug, and Medicare Supplement Insurance plans.

How long do you have to enroll in Part B?

There are two main times when you can enroll in part B when you are over 65 and covered by your employer’s insurance: 1 While your work coverage is still active 2 During the eight month period after your employer-based coverage ends or the employment ends, whichever occurs first.

Can seniors over 65 delay Medicare?

Senior65 generally recommends those over 65 delay enrolling in Medicare Part B if they are offered coverage through work (including spouse’s work). We all want to stay clear of paying Medicare late-enrollment penalties while avoiding gaps in coverage. This is where Senior65 comes in to make sense of it all.

Does Medicare Part B start at the same time?

That way you can time it that when your work coverage ends, your Medicare Part B (and any supplemental or drug coverage you may purchase) all start at the same time. You should not have a gap when your work coverage has ended but your Medicare has yet to begin.

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