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what if a patient has both medicare and the va

by Camren Bernhard Published 2 years ago Updated 1 year ago
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If you have both plans, VA benefits will cover VA-approved healthcare services and cover any services you get from a VA facility, while Medicare will cover healthcare services from non-VA providers. Having both Medicare and VA benefits will do nothing but provide you with more coverage.

Those who have both VA benefits and Medicare Part A and Part B have the option to enroll in a Medicare Advantage plan. Private insurance companies offer these plans. When you enroll in this coverage, the carrier you choose pays instead of Medicare. The monthly costs for Medicare Advantage plans are relatively low.

Full Answer

Do I need Medicare if I have veterans benefits?

To keep things brief, no, you do not need Medicare if you have VA benefits. You can get all of your care through your VA benefits. That said, the VA will put you into “groups” based on your disability’s severity.

Does VA pay after Medicare?

No, VA will not pay the balance left from Medicare, or any other insurance for that matter. VA basically a closed health care system and does not act as an insurance. This is not the case for any dependents that might be covered by ChampVA, since it is an insurance.

How veterans can make sense of Medicare and VA benefits?

Medicare covers veterans in the same way as it covers most other Medicare beneficiaries. But there are a few things that veterans of the armed forces should know about Medicare. 1. Medicare and VA coverage do not coordinate benefits. Medicare and VA (Veterans Affairs) insurance do not coordinate coverage. The only instance in which the two programs might team up to offer dual coverage is when the VA approves qualified care to be received at a non-VA facility.

Does the VA accept Medicare?

VA health care benefits typically only cover services received at a VA facility, and for Medicare to cover your care, you must visit a non-VA facility that accepts your Medicare coverage. Having coverage through both the VA health program and Medicare gives you wider coverage and more choices of where you can be treated.

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Can I use VA and Medicare together?

You can have both Medicare and Veterans Affairs (VA) benefits, but Medicare and VA benefits do not work together. Medicare does not pay for any care that you receive at a VA facility. In order for your VA coverage to cover your care, you must generally receive health care services at a VA facility.

Can VA and Medicare both be billed?

You can have both VA Benefits and Medicare. However, you will need to choose which benefits you use when you receive health care services or get health care items. To use VA benefits, you'll have to see a VA doctor or get care at a VA medical center or other VA location.

How does VA disability affect Medicare?

Having VA benefits does not affect Medicare costs. You can qualify for premium-free Medicare Part A coverage, but you'll likely have to pay premiums or a monthly fee for your other Medicare coverage depending on your plan.

Is Medicare primary or secondary to VA?

The VA pays for VA-authorized services or items . For active-duty military enrolled in Medicare, TRICARE pays first for Medicare- covered services or items, and Medicare pays second . For inactive-duty military enrolled in Medicare, Medicare pays first and TRICARE may pay second .

Can the VA be a secondary insurance?

VA benefits aren't secondary insurance to Medicare, as they cover care at different types of facilities. Yet, if you are eligible for both, enrolling in both can round out your health care.

What happens to my VA disability when I turn 65?

Even after veterans reach full retirement age, VA's disability payments continue at the same level. By contrast, the income that people receive after they retire (from Social Security or private pensions) usually is less than their earnings from wages and salary before retirement.

Do veterans get free healthcare for life?

You can get free VA health care for any illness or injury that we determine is related to your military service (called “service connected”). We also provide certain other services for free.

Can you have a Medicare Advantage plan and VA benefits?

You can have both. Coverage through a Medicare Advantage Plan does not conflict with VA health care services and would increase your flexibility and options in terms of how and where you receive health care.

When can veterans enroll in Medicare?

Like other Americans, veterans become eligible for Medicare at age 65. (Those with a qualifying disability may enroll earlier.) The best time to sign up is during your initial enrollment period. That begins 3 months before the first day of your birthday month and lasts for 7 months.

Do you have to enroll in Medicare if you have VA benefits?

You don’t. But without Medicare coverage, you’ll be uninsured for any treatment you get at non-VA facilities or care from providers not authorized in advance by the VA. You’ll be billed for the full cost of those services, at serious risk to your net worth. That’s why the VA recommends that veterans sign up for Medicare as soon as they can.

What are the benefits of combining Medicare and VA benefits?

Enrolling in Medicare could fill in gaps in the coverage you get through the VA benefits. That’s because you’ll be able to go either to VA facilities for treatment (covered under VA benefits) or to Medicare-approved doctors and facilities (covered by Medicare). Also, VA benefits are not guaranteed, so your coverage could change in the future.

Which areas of Medicare coverage and VA benefits can you combine?

Medicare and VA benefits do not work together. But they can sometimes complement each other. For example, if the VA pre-authorizes treatment at a non-VA hospital but not certain services you get during the hospital stay, Medicare may pay for those services. For specifics, contact your Medicare plan.

How does VA disability affect Medicare?

VA benefits — including disability payments — don’t affect Medicare. At age 65, you are eligible for Medicare regardless. Before that, you may receive Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) while you’re on VA disability. After 2 years of SSDI payments, you can enroll in Medicare. Your VA disability benefits remain in place.

What do you have to do to manage Medicare and VA benefits?

You will have to pay the premiums for Medicare Part B or Medicare Advantage as well as any cost-sharing copayments. For VA benefits, there typically aren’t enrollment fees, monthly premiums, or deductibles. But some veterans may have copayments for healthcare or prescription drugs.

Where can you get help coordinating Medicare and VA benefits?

Various government-supported offices have staffers to help you combine and manage your health plans:

VA Benefits

VA benefits are meant for people who have served in active duty and were discharged under honorable conditions. To be eligible for VA benefits, you must meet the minimum duty requirements of 24 months of continuous service.

Medicare

Medicare is a federal health program for people aged 65 and older, people with certain health conditions such as ALS and End-Stage Renal Disease, and people who receive disability benefits from SSA or the Railroad Retirement Board. It covers hospital and medical costs and is split into various parts.

VA Benefits and Medicare

VA benefits can work with Medicare to provide healthcare coverage. If you have both plans, VA benefits will cover VA-approved healthcare services and cover any services you get from a VA facility, while Medicare will cover healthcare services from non-VA providers.

Why is Medicare important for VA?

Therefore, Medicare coverage may be particularly important if, say, you don’t live near a VA facility or your local facility has long wait times.

What is Medicare Advantage?

Medicare Part C (Medicare Advantage) and VA Benefits. If you need additional services or coverage not offered to you through your VA benefits, you may consider a Medicare Advantage plan. Most Medicare Advantage plans offer additional coverage, like vision, hearing, dental, prescription drug coverage, and/or health and wellness programs. ...

What happens if you wait to enroll in Medicare Part B?

If you wait to enroll in Part B when you are first eligible, you will likely experience gaps in coverage and incur a penalty for each 12-month period you were without Medicare Part B coverage. Learn more about Medicare Part B.

How to contact Medicare.org?

For further information about finding a Medicare plan that works with your VA health benefits and individual needs, call (888) 815-3313 – TTY 711 to talk with an experienced Medicare.org licensed sales agent.

Do you have to pay a penalty for Medicare?

The VA encourages you to consider enrolling in Medicare as soon as you’re eligible because Medicare and VA benefits don’t work together – and you may have to pay a penalty if you end up enrolling in Medicare later.

Do veterans need Medicare?

Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) who is eligible, or nearing eligibility for Medicare coverage? If you already have medical coverage through the VA health program, you may be wondering if you also need to enroll in Medicare. The answer is that you could probably benefit from having both VA ...

Does VA cover prescription drugs?

With VA health benefits, you typically get premium-free drug coverage. However, if the VA-approved pharmacy locations or the Consolidated Mail Outpatient Pharmacy Program (CMOP), doesn’ t work for you, then you may consider a Part D or a Part C plan with prescription drug coverage.

Why is it important to understand VA and Medicare?

Because each offers different benefits, having both at your disposal will broaden your health insurance coverage options. If you’re a veteran, it’s important to understand how VA benefits and Medicare work in tandem before you make the choice.

How long do you have to enroll in Medicare if you lose your VA benefits?

If you lose your VA benefits, you’ll have 63 days to enroll in a Part D plan before that penalty kicks in.

What is Medicare Supplement Insurance?

A veteran may choose to supplement their Medicare coverage with a privately administered Medigap Insurance plan (also called Medicare Supplement Insurance), which helps cover the out-of-pocket costs associated with Medicare, such as deductibles, copayments, coinsurance and other fees.

How much is the VA deductible for 2021?

In addition to the 2021 Medicare Part A deductible of $1,484 per benefit period, coinsurance for hospital stays lasting longer than 60 days starts at $371 per day in 2021. Moreover, after meeting your 2021 Part B deductible ...

What is the priority number for veterans?

All veterans who qualify for VA health benefits are assigned to a priority group numbered 1 through 8, with 1 being the highest and 8 being the lowest. Your priority number, which depends on factors such as your income level and if you have a service-connected disability, determines everything from copayments to out-of-pocket costs to ...

What happens if you don't enroll in Part B?

If you don’t enroll in Part B when you’re first eligible and later change your mind, you will likely have to pay an ongoing late-enrollment Part B premium penalty of 10% for every 12-month period that you didn’t have it.

How long do you have to serve in the military to get VA benefits?

The minimum duty requirements for VA benefits call for 24 months of continuous service, which also applies to members of the National Guard and the Reserves. But because there are many exceptions ...

Not sure if you should sign up for Medicare if you get VA benefits? Even the VA says it's a good idea

If you qualify for both Veteran's Affair (VA) and Medicare benefits, who pays for healthcare services can be confusing. Unlike other types of supplemental coverage, it isn't a matter of who pays first between the VA and Medicare. Instead, it comes down to where you receive care. If it's a VA facility, then your VA benefits pay.

What Does the Department of Veterans Affairs Cover?

It's important to remember that the VA only covers care when you go to a VA facility. Your condition does not have to be related to your service.

Should You Sign Up for Medicare Part A If You Get VA Benefits?

Original Medicare includes two parts, A and B. Medicare Part A provides outpatient care received in a hospital or skilled nursing facility (SNF). And we nearly always recommend signing up for Medicare Part A – even if you get VA health benefits.

Should You Sign Up for Medicare Part B If You Get VA Benefits?

Medicare Part B is the second half of Original Medicare. It covers inpatient medical services like doctor appointments, mental health care, and durable medical equipment.

When Should You Sign Up for Medicare?

U.S. citizens age 65 and older qualify for the Medicare program. You may also be eligible if you collect either Railroad Retirement Board (RRB) or Social Security disability benefits for 24 months. In addition, people who have ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) or end-stage renal disease (ESRD) qualify for Medicare.

Do Vets Need a Medigap Plan?

Medicare Supplement Insurance, more commonly known as Medigap, helps pay your out-of-pocket costs when you have Original Medicare. If you plan to rely more on your Medicare benefits than your VA coverage, you may want to sign up for a Medigap plan.

Do You Need Medicare Advantage If You Have VA Benefits?

Medicare Part C, more commonly known as Medicare Advantage, provides the same coverage as Original Medicare. However, most Advantage plans provide additional benefits, like prescription drug coverage and routine dental care.

Is VA coverage good for Medicare?

Enrollment in the VA health care system is considered creditable coverage for Medicare Part D purposes. This means VA prescription drug coverage is at least as good as the Medicare Part D coverage. Since only Veterans can enroll in the VA health care system, dependents and family members do not receive credible coverage under the Veteran’s enrollment.

Can veterans use private health insurance?

Veterans with private health insurance may choose to use these sources of coverage as a supplement to their VA health care benefits. Veterans are not responsible for paying any remaining balance of VA’s insurance claim not paid or covered by their health insurance.

Do veterans have to provide information on their health insurance?

All Veterans applying for VA medical care are required to provide information on their health insurance coverage, including coverage provided under policies of their spouses. Any payment received by VA may be used to offset “dollar for dollar” a Veteran’s VA copay responsibility.

Can veterans get prescription drugs from community physicians?

For example, Veterans enrolled in both programs would have access to community physicians (under Medicare Part A or Part B) and can obtain prescription drugs not on the VA formulary if prescribed by community physicians and filled at their local retail pharmacies (under Medicare Part D).

Does VA health care meet the ACA?

If I’m signed up for the VA health care program, does that mean I meet the requirements to have health care under the Affordable Care Act (ACA)? Yes. Being signed up for VA health care meets your Affordable Care Act health coverage requirement of having “minimum essential health coverage.”.

Does VA pay deductible?

Your private insurer may apply your VA health care charges toward your annual deductible (the amount of money you pay toward your care each year before your insurance starts paying for care).

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