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why does it cost more for obamacare when my spouse goes on medicare

by Marge Thompson Published 3 years ago Updated 2 years ago

In other words the coverage for spouse costs more than double the coverage for the employee him- or herself. Although covering a spouse through an employer can be expensive, the spouse won’t be eligible for the premium subsidy because the spouse has access to an employer coverage and the employee-only coverage is still affordable.

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Is the ACA better than Medicare for my spouse?

The one plus is that your spouse will still use household income to determine subsidies. Thus, at some incomes this works out to a great deal (in my opinion better than Medicare cost-wise), but only at some incomes. I am preparing to retire. My spouse is 58. I have been checking locally for the ACA policies available.

What happens to my health insurance when my spouse goes on Medicare?

If your health insurance coverage comes through your spouse’s job, you may lose that coverage when he or she retires and goes on Medicare. Not so long ago, this was a scary and expensive prospect, but things have changed.

Are married couples covered by Medicare?

Learn about Medicare costs for married, widowed and divorced couples so you can budget for changes in your circumstances and have peace of mind your healthcare is covered. More than half of all Americans aged 65 or over are married, according to data from the U.S. census.

Does marriage affect Obamacare Premium subsidy qualifications?

If you are not married yet, and you plan to qualify for the premium subsidy under Obamacare, think twice before you tie the knot. Marriage gets in the way of getting affordable health care in several ways.

Can I get Obamacare if my husband has Medicare?

Can I enroll in Medicare as his spouse? No. Although your husband now qualifies for Medicare, you will not qualify for Medicare until you turn 65. If you do not have health insurance now, you can consider signing up for health insurance coverage through a Marketplace plan.

What happens to my wife when I go on Medicare?

Your Medicare insurance doesn't cover your spouse – no matter whether your spouse is 62, 65, or any age. But in some cases, a younger spouse can help you get Medicare Part A with no monthly premium. Traditional Medicare includes Part A (hospital insurance) and Part B (medical insurance).

What happens to the ACA subsidy when one person goes on Medicare?

Individual market plans no longer terminate automatically when you turn 65. You can keep your individual market plan, but premium subsidies will terminate when you become eligible for premium-free Medicare Part A (there is some flexibility here, and the date the subsidy terminates will depend on when you enroll).

Does spouse Social Security count as income for Obamacare?

Yes, Social Security benefits are counted as income in determining eligibility for premium tax credits in the Marketplace.

Why is my Medicare premium higher than my husbands?

If you file your taxes as “married, filing jointly” and your MAGI is greater than $170,000, you'll pay higher premiums for your Part B and Medicare prescription drug coverage. If you file your taxes using a different status, and your MAGI is greater than $85,000, you'll pay higher premiums.

How does Medicare work for married couples?

Medicare has no family plans, meaning that you and your spouse must enroll for Medicare benefits separately. This also means husbands, wives, spouses and partners pay separate Medicare premiums.

Can a person have Medicare and Obamacare at the same time?

No. The Marketplace doesn't affect your Medicare choices or benefits, so if you have Medicare coverage, you don't need to do anything. This means no matter how you get Medicare, whether through Original Medicare or a Medicare Advantage Plan (like an HMO or PPO), you don't have to make any changes.

Can I have Obamacare and Medicare?

Yes. You can get a Marketplace plan to cover you before your Medicare begins. You can then cancel the Marketplace plan once your Medicare coverage starts. Learn more if you have Marketplace coverage but will soon be eligible for Medicare.

What is the family glitch in Obamacare?

The “Family Glitch” is a hole in the Affordable Care Act that affects low to moderate income families to not qualify for premium assistance on the health exchange. This is due to the rules that determine the “affordability” of employer offered health insurance.

Can only one spouse get Obamacare?

You have the option of putting both spouses on one plan or selecting two different plans. You can pick separate plans even if you're enrolling in the exchange with premium subsidies.

Does married filing separately affect Obamacare?

People who use the “married filing separately” status are not eligible to receive premium tax credits (and also cannot claim certain other tax breaks, such as the child and dependent care tax credit, tuition deductions, or the earned income tax credit.)

What income figure is used for Obamacare?

Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI)The Heath Insurance Marketplace uses an income figure called Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) to determine the programs and savings you qualify for. For most people, it's identical or very close to Adjusted Gross Income (AGI). MAGI is not a line on your federal tax return.

How many children can you add to your ACA insurance?

The final rule states that for a single household, no more than three children under the age of 21 will be counted for the purpose of determining the family's premium. 6.

How much does Amy and Bill pay in 2021?

Amy and Bill's household income is $48,000 per year. Based on the US average, Bill pays $206 per month in 2021 for the benchmark plan in the exchange, and the remaining $514 per month is covered by his subsidy. Now let's say Amy's employer stops offering health insurance.

How much is the after subsidy for a family of 4?

Initially, they are a family of four, and their after-subsidy premium is $532 per month, with a subsidy of $904 per month picking up the rest (note that premiums for kids used to only vary based on age once the kid turned 21, but as of 2018, kids' premiums start to increase once they turn 15.

How much is the American Rescue Plan subsidy 2021?

Using the U.S. average costs, their subsidy in 2021 is $1,782 per month. Their after-subsidy premium for the second-lowest-cost silver plan (ie, the benchmark plan) is $233 per month, which is 5.6% of their household income (before the American Rescue Plan was enacted, they were expected to spend 9.53% of their income for the benchmark plan, but the new law has reduced that for 2021 and 2022, resulting in a larger premium subsidy). 3

How much is the health insurance premium for a 4th child?

Their total health insurance premium for the family will still be $1,705 per month, since the insurer isn't allowed to add any additional premium for the fourth child. But they will only be responsible for $318 of it, and their subsidy will grow to $1,387 per month.

What happens if a young adult is included in his or her parents' health insurance plan through the exchange?

If a young adult is included on his or her parents' health insurance plan through the exchange, the young adult's income would be added to the parents' income for subsidy eligibility determination, even if they file their own tax returns.

Does Amy's employer offer health insurance?

Now let's say Amy's employer stops offering health insurance. Loss of coverage is a qualifying event, which means Amy can enroll in a plan in the individual market. If she joins Bill on his benchmark plan, the after-subsidy cost of the plan will still be $206 per month, but the subsidy will jump to $1,172 per month.

How long do you have to pick a new insurance plan after losing your spouse's insurance?

Losing the coverage you had under your spouse's plan will make you eligible for a time-limited special enrollment period in the individual insurance market, on- or off-exchange (note that in this case, you have 60 days before the loss of coverage, and 60 days after the loss of coverage, during which you can pick a new plan).

How long does it take to get Medicare if you don't have Cobra?

If you’re not going to be eligible for Medicare yourself within 18 months (or up to 36 months, depending on the circumstances), you’ll have to come up with another plan for coverage when your COBRA continuation coverage runs out.

Is Medicaid a separate program from Medicare?

It’s easy to confuse Medicaid and Medicare, but they're separate programs with different benefits and different eligibility criteria. In many states, low-income people making up to 138% of federal poverty level are eligible for Medicaid.

Can I get medicaid if my income is low?

If your income is low enough, you may be eligible for government-provided health insurance through Medicaid. In some states, the Medicaid program goes by another name like SoonerCare in Oklahoma or Medi-Cal in California. It’s easy to confuse Medicaid and Medicare, but they're separate programs with different benefits and different eligibility criteria.

How much will Medicare pay for 2021?

In 2021, you’ll also pay $203 for your Part B deductible before your some of your Part B benefits kick in. After paying this amount, you’ll typically pay 20% of the Medicare-approved amount for medical expenses covered by Part B, including: Most doctor services. Outpatient therapy.

How long do you have to be married to qualify for Medicare?

You had Medicare-covered government employment. You have been married to someone with a qualifying work history for at least 12 months. You may also qualify for premium-free Part A at an earlier age if: You have received Social Security or Railroad Retirement Board disability payments for 24 months.

What is Medicare Part B premium?

This higher Part B premium amount is called the Medicare income-related monthly adjustment amount, or IRMAA. The higher your combined annual income, the more your Medicare Part B premiums will ...

How much is a hospital deductible in 2021?

Prices vary depending on how long you or your spouse worked and paid taxes. For hospital or other qualifying inpatient stays, you’ll pay a deductible ($1,484 per benefit period in 2021) before your Part A benefits kick in.

How many seniors are married in the US?

More than half of all Americans aged 65 or over are married, according to data from the U.S. census. In some states, such as Wyoming, Idaho and Utah, more than three in five seniors age 65 and above have tied the knot. If you’re considering getting married or are already living in wedded bliss, you may wonder how much Medicare plans will cost you.

Do married people pay Medicare?

Most married Medicare beneficiaries don’t pay monthly premiums for Medicare Part A. You’ll qualify for premium-free Part A at 65 if any one of the following applies to you: You worked and paid Medicare taxes for at least 40 quarters, or 10 years. You had Medicare-covered government employment.

Do you pay Medicare Part B if you are married?

Medicare Part B. As you are no longer part of a married couple, only your income from two years prior determines your monthly Part B premiums. In most cases, you’ll pay the standard monthly premium. However, if you filed your income taxes individually two years ago (2019) and your gross annual income was more than $88,000, ...

What happens if you marry someone with a low income?

If you have a low income and you marry someone who has a higher income, your combined income may be over the 400% FPL cutoff. You lose the subsidy. That’s intended because we expect the higher-earning spouse to subsidize the lower-earning spouse.

What happens when you put two incomes together?

When you put two incomes together, you can fall off the cliff together. For instance suppose two of you have a MAGI of $35k each. If you don’t marry, both of you qualify for the subsidy. After you marry, neither of you will qualify for the subsidy.

What happens if you don't marry?

If you don’t marry, the subsidy is calculated from your own income. If you marry, it will be calculated from your two incomes combined, even if you are buying only one policy. The cost of the second least expensive Silver plan for one person doesn’t change.

Does an employer subsidize dependents?

Most employers offer coverage to an employee’s spouse but they don’t subsidize dependents or they subsidize dependents much less than they subsidize employees. At my employer, an employee’s cost to cover the employee plus spouse is not just 2x the cost to cover only the employee. It’s 3.2x.

Do you get a lower subsidy if you marry?

Lower Subsidy. Even if you manage to stay on the cliff, you will still receive a lower subsidy when you marry, due to the fact that the FPL for two is much less than twice the FPL for one. This chart shows the subsidies two people with the same income will receive when they marry versus when they stay as two singles.

How old do you have to be to get Medicare?

In a case such as this, you must be at least 62 years old.

How long do you have to work to qualify for Medicare?

In the United States, as soon as you turn 65 you are eligible for Medicare benefits if you are citizen or have been a legal resident for five years or more and have worked for at least 40 quarters (10 years) paying federal taxes.

Can you get Medicare at different ages?

If you and your spouse are different ages, you will likely become eligible at different times. Primary Medicare recipients and their non-insured spouses are entitled to the same benefits under Medicare if both have reached the age of 65.

Do you have to enroll in Medicare Part B or D?

If you wish to sign up for Medicare Part B (Medical Insurance), and/or Part D (prescription drug insurance), you must enroll separately during your initial enrollment period, Open Enrollment or during Special Enrollment Period to avoid paying late enrollment penalties.

How long does a spouse have to be on Cobra?

If a company has more than 20 employees, it is required to offer COBRA benefits. COBRA allows coverage for 18 months, sometimes longer, so if the working spouse can wait to retire until 18 months before the younger spouses 65th birthday, this would work out nicely.

How long do you have to work to qualify for Medicare?

First, it is important to know how eligibility for Medicare works. Most Medicare beneficiaries have worked and paid Medicare payroll taxes for at least 10 years to qualify for premium-free Medicare Part A as well as Part B coverage. If you have not worked for 10 years but your spouse has, you are allowed to claim benefits on their record. Medicare benefits cannot start earlier than when you turn 65, unless you are disabled, have ALS, or have end-stage renal disease. Medicare will only cover you, not your spouse or children if they are not eligible on their own.

What is Cobra insurance?

COBRA, or the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, is a law that gives workers and families that lose employer health coverage the right to maintain the coverage by paying the full premiums. If a company has more than 20 employees, it is required to offer COBRA benefits. COBRA allows coverage for 18 months, sometimes longer, ...

Can a non-working spouse get Social Security?

If the non-working spouse is older than the working spouse, the non-working spouse can qualify on on the working spouses work record if they are at least 62, since that is when qualification for Social Security begins. In this case, if the working spouse is still working, the non-working spouse should stay on the work health insurance ...

Can a spouse get health insurance after 65?

The other option would be for the younger spouse to find a job that offers health insurance until they turn 65. While this is a long-shot, some companies will provide coverage for the younger spouse even after the working spouse retires.

Can a non-working spouse claim Medicare?

If the working spouse is no longer employed, the non-working spouse should go ahead and apply for coverage fully from Medicare. If the working spouse is younger than 62, the non-working spouse will not be able to claim on the record.

Does Medicare cover spouse?

Medicare will only cover you, not your spouse or children if they are not eligible on their own. This is where problems begin, especially when a working spouse is older than a non-working spouse. Say the working spouse turns 65, retires, and claims Medicare. The other spouse is only 61.

Are there income limits for ACA subsidy eligibility?

Normally, subsidy eligibility only extends to households with income up to 400% of the poverty level, with no subsidies available for households with income above that point. But for 2021 and 2022, the American Rescue Plan has eliminated that income threshold.

Will we qualify for a subsidy?

The exchange will look to see what percentage of your total household income is necessary to cover the full-price cost of the benchmark plan for your wife. If it’s more than the percentage of income that people are expected to pay for their coverage, she’ll qualify for a premium subsidy.

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