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what if i'm on medicare but working and have health insurance

by Bettie VonRueden Published 2 years ago Updated 1 year ago
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Generally, if you have job-based health insurance through your (or your spouse’s) current job, you don’t have to sign up for Medicare while you (or your spouse) are still working. You can wait to sign up until you (or your spouse) stop working or you lose your health insurance (whichever comes first).

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Should you enroll in Medicare while still working?

If you’re 65 or older, still working and are covered by employer health insurance, it can make sense to sign up for Medicare now. Enrollment might reduce your out-of-pocket costs. Millions find...

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Can you get Medicare if you are still working?

You can get Medicare if you’re still working and meet the Medicare eligibility requirements. You become eligible for Medicare once you turn 65 years old if you’re a U.S. citizen or have been a permanent resident for the past 5 years. You can also enroll in Medicare even if you’re covered by an employer medical plan.

How does Medicare work with my current employer insurance?

  • You will always have the choice of keeping your employer health insurance when you are eligible for Medicare if you work for a large company
  • Depending on the size of your company, Medicare may be your primary or secondary insurance
  • Medicare also works with COBRA, TRICARE, VA benefits, and HRAs

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Can you have Medicare and employer insurance at the same time?

As Medicare Part B requires beneficiaries to pay a premium, you may wish to delay enrollment if you have group insurance. Thus, you can keep Medicare and employer coverage. The size of your employer determines whether your coverage will be creditable once you retire and are ready to enroll in Medicare Part B.

Do you get your Medicare taken away if you start working?

During the first 9 months that you work in a rolling 5-year period, you continue to receive full benefits, including Medicare, if the waiting period has passed, regardless of how much you earn, as long as you report your work activity to Social Security and continue to have a disabling impairment.

Is it a good idea to get Medicare if you're still working at 65?

If you have health insurance through a company with fewer than 20 employees, you should sign up for Medicare at 65 regardless of whether you stay on the employer plan. If you do choose to remain on it, Medicare is your primary insurance.

Can I keep my insurance if I have Medicare?

It is possible to have both private insurance and Medicare at the same time. When you have both, a process called “coordination of benefits” determines which insurance provider pays first. This provider is called the primary payer.

Does working affect Medicare benefits?

It depends on how you get your health insurance now and the number of employees that are in the company where you (or your spouse) work. Generally, if you have job-based health insurance through your (or your spouse's) current job, you don't have to sign up for Medicare while you (or your spouse) are still working.

Do I automatically get Medicare when I turn 65?

You automatically get Medicare when you turn 65 Part A covers inpatient hospital stays, skilled nursing facility care, hospice care, and some home health care.

What happens if you don't enroll in Medicare Part A at 65?

If you don't have to pay a Part A premium, you generally don't have to pay a Part A late enrollment penalty. The Part A penalty is 10% added to your monthly premium. You generally pay this extra amount for twice the number of years that you were eligible for Part A but not enrolled.

What do I need to do before I turn 65?

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Why are there Medicare penalties?

Medicare charges several late-enrollment penalties. They're meant to discourage you from passing up coverage, then getting hit with costly medical bills. To avoid higher Medicare premiums, you need to know about these penalties and take steps to avoid them.

Is Medicare primary or secondary to employer coverage?

Medicare pays first and your group health plan (retiree) coverage pays second . If the employer has 100 or more employees, then the large group health plan pays first, and Medicare pays second .

Can I claim Medicare and private health?

If you have private health insurance, you can still use Medicare services. There are times when you can claim Medicare benefits and use your private health insurance at the same time. For example, if you go to a public hospital as a private patient, you may be able to claim: from us for the costs we cover.

Can I get Medicare Part B for free?

While Medicare Part A – which covers hospital care – is free for most enrollees, Part B – which covers doctor visits, diagnostics, and preventive care – charges participants a premium. Those premiums are a burden for many seniors, but here's how you can pay less for them.

What factors affect your Medicare enrollment status if you are working?

Medicare is the federal health insurance program that covers people age 65 and older as well as some younger people with disabilities or specific health conditions. If you’re still working at 65 and covered by your employer plan, several factors will affect your Medicare enrollment status:

Is Medicare enrollment required for people who are still working?

It depends. As mentioned above, if you work for a company with fewer than 20 people, you’ll be expected to sign up for Medicare ( including Part D) as soon as your initial enrollment period rolls around. That period begins 3 months before your 65th birthday and continues for 3 months after the month you turn 65.

What are the benefits of getting Medicare while I am working?

If you’re unhappy with your current insurance, you might prefer the Medicare coverage. For example, your private health insurance may restrict you to a small network of doctors, while 99% of nonpediatric physicians accept Medicare. Switching to Medicare may also save you money on out-of-pocket costs versus your existing plan.

What are the drawbacks of getting Medicare while still working?

While Medicare Part A is free, Medicare Part B — which covers doctor visits and outpatient medical supplies — requires you to pay a monthly premium (in 2021, the premium is $148.50 per month for most enrollees; high earners may pay more).

How do I decide which approach is the most cost-effective for me?

When you have access to both an employer-based plan and Medicare, deciding on the most cost-effective approach to building insurance coverage takes a bit of work. To start, add up each plan’s out-of-pocket costs, including its premiums, deductibles, copays, and prescription drug costs.

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The bottom line

You can use Medicare while you’re still working. If you work for a large employer, the decision is typically up to you. To decide on the right approach, you’ll need to consider both plans’ costs and coverage.

How does Medicare work with other insurance?

When there's more than one payer, "coordination of benefits" rules decide which one pays first. The "primary payer" pays what it owes on your bills first, and then sends the rest to the "secondary payer" (supplemental payer) ...

How many employees does a spouse have to have to be on Medicare?

Your spouse’s employer must have 20 or more employees, unless the employer has less than 20 employees, but is part of a multi-employer plan or multiple employer plan. If the group health plan didn’t pay all of your bill, the doctor or health care provider should send the bill to Medicare for secondary payment.

How long does it take for Medicare to pay a claim?

If the insurance company doesn't pay the claim promptly (usually within 120 days), your doctor or other provider may bill Medicare. Medicare may make a conditional payment to pay the bill, and then later recover any payments the primary payer should have made. If Medicare makes a. conditional payment.

What is a group health plan?

If the. group health plan. In general, a health plan offered by an employer or employee organization that provides health coverage to employees and their families.

What is the difference between primary and secondary insurance?

The insurance that pays first (primary payer) pays up to the limits of its coverage. The one that pays second (secondary payer) only pays if there are costs the primary insurer didn't cover. The secondary payer (which may be Medicare) may not pay all the uncovered costs.

When does Medicare pay for COBRA?

When you’re eligible for or entitled to Medicare due to End-Stage Renal Disease (ESRD), during a coordination period of up to 30 months, COBRA pays first. Medicare pays second, to the extent COBRA coverage overlaps the first 30 months of Medicare eligibility or entitlement based on ESRD.

What is the phone number for Medicare?

It may include the rules about who pays first. You can also call the Benefits Coordination & Recovery Center (BCRC) at 1-855-798-2627 (TTY: 1-855-797-2627).

How long does Medicare coverage last?

This special period lasts for eight months after the first month you go without your employer’s health insurance. Many people avoid having a coverage gap by signing up for Medicare the month before your employer’s health insurance coverage ends.

Does Medicare cover health insurance?

Medicare covers any remaining costs. Depending on your employer’s size, Medicare will work with your employer’s health insurance coverage in different ways. If your company has 20 employees or less and you’re over 65, Medicare will pay primary. Since your employer has less than 20 employees, Medicare calls this employer health insurance coverage ...

Does Medicare pay second to employer?

Your health insurance through your employer will pay second and cover either some or all of the costs left over. If Medicare pays secondary to your insurance through your employer, your employer’s insurance pays first. Medicare covers any remaining costs. Depending on your employer’s size, Medicare will work with your employer’s health insurance ...

Can an employer refuse to pay Medicare?

The first problem is that your employer can legally refuse to make any health-related medical payments until Medicare pays first. If you delay coverage and your employer’s health insurance pays primary when it was supposed to be secondary and pick up any leftover costs, it could recoup payments.

Do I need to sign up for Medicare when I turn 65?

It depends on how you get your health insurance now and the number of employees that are in the company where you (or your spouse) work.

How does Medicare work with my job-based health insurance?

Most people qualify to get Part A without paying a monthly premium. If you qualify, you can sign up for Part A coverage starting 3 months before you turn 65 and any time after you turn 65 — Part A coverage starts up to 6 months back from when you sign up or apply to get benefits from Social Security (or the Railroad Retirement Board).

Do I need to get Medicare drug coverage (Part D)?

You can get Medicare drug coverage once you sign up for either Part A or Part B. You can join a Medicare drug plan or Medicare Advantage Plan with drug coverage anytime while you have job-based health insurance, and up to 2 months after you lose that insurance.

What happens if you leave Medicare without a creditable coverage letter?

Without creditable coverage during the time you’ve been Medicare-eligible, you’ll incur late enrollment penalties. When you leave your group health coverage, the insurance carrier will mail you a creditable coverage letter. You’ll need to show this letter to Medicare to protect yourself from late penalties.

What happens if you don't have Part B insurance?

If you don’t, your employer’s group plan can refuse to pay your claims. Your insurance might cover claims even if you don’t have Part B, but we always recommend enrolling in Part B. Your carrier can change that at any time, with no warning, leaving you responsible for outpatient costs.

What is a Health Reimbursement Account?

Beneficiaries who participate can get tax-free reimbursements, including their Part B premium. A Health Reimbursement Account is a well-known Section 105 plan. An HRA reimburses eligible employees for their premiums, as well as other medical costs.

Is Medicare billed first or second?

If your employer has fewer than 20 employees, then Medicare becomes primary. This means Medicare is billed first, and your employer plan will be billed second. If you have small group insurance, it’s HIGHLY recommended that you enroll in both Parts A and B as soon as you’re eligible. If you don’t, your employer’s group plan can refuse ...

Is a $4,000 hospital deductible a creditable plan?

For your outpatient and medication insurance, a plan from an employer with over 20 employees is creditable coverage. This safeguards you from having to pay late enrollment penalties for Part B and Part D, ...

Is Part B premium free?

Since Part B is not premium-free like Part A is for most, you may wish to delay enrollment if you have group insurance. As stated above, the size of your employer determines whether your coverage will be considered creditable once you retire and are ready to enroll. Group coverage for employers with 20 or more employees is deemed creditable ...

Can employers contribute to Medicare premiums?

Medicare Premiums and Employer Contributions. Per CMS, it’s illegal for employers to contribute to Medica re premiums. The exception is employers who set up a 105 Reimbursement Plan for all employees. The reimbursement plan deducts money from the employees’ salaries to buy individual insurance policies.

How old do you have to be to get medicare?

You become eligible for Medicare once you turn 65 years old if you’re a U.S. citizen or have been a permanent resident for the past 5 years. You can also enroll in Medicare even if you’re covered by an employer medical plan. Read on to learn more about what to do if you’re eligible for Medicare and are still employed. Share on Pinterest.

What is Medicare Part B?

Medicare Part B is the part of Medicare that provides medical insurance. You can use it to cover various outpatient services, such as: doctors’ appointments. durable medical equipment like wheelchairs, walkers, and oxygen equipment. laboratory testing, such as blood tests and urinalysis.

How long can you keep your group health plan?

However, if you or your spouse is employed when you become eligible, you may be eligible for an 8-month special enrollment period. During a special enrollment period, you can keep your existing group health plan for as long as it’s available. If you leave that employer or the employer terminates your coverage, you will typically have this 8-month ...

How much is Part B insurance in 2021?

The standard Part B premium for most people in 2021 starts at $148.50. The higher your income, the higher your rates will be.

Is it mandatory to sign up for medicare?

It is not mandatory to sign up for Medicare. In fact, you may prefer the healthcare coverage offered by your employer. However, if you defer or decline Medicare coverage, you could pay some form of penalty.

Does Medicare help with medical expenses?

If you work for a small company (fewer than 20 employees) or have a health insurance plan through your employer with minimal coverage, enrolling in Medicare may help reduce your medical expenses. Medicare will often become the primary payer in these cases and may provide better coverage than you currently receive.

How long do you have to work to get Medicare Part A?

If by the time you reach 65 you’ve worked a total of approximately 10 years over your career, you’re entitled to premium-free Medicare Part A, which pays for in-patient hospital charges and more.

What happens if you overlook Medicare enrollment rules?

Medicare processes and rules are complex and rife with exceptions; if you overlook something in the enrollment rules, you may pay a high price in terms of both penalties and gaps in coverage. So you should consult with Medicare and with the benefits administrator for your employer coverage — before you enroll or decide to delay enrollment.

How many employees do you have to have to have Medicare Part B?

If the employer has fewer than 20 employees: If your or your spouse's employer has fewer than 20 employees and the health coverage is not part of a multiemployer group plan, at age 65 you must enroll in Medicare Part B, which will be your primary insurance. If you have an HSA and want to keep contributing: If you have an HSA ...

What is Medicare Part A?

If the employer has fewer than 20 employees: If your or your spouse's employer has fewer than 20 employees and the health coverage is not part of a multiemployer group plan, at age 65 you must enroll in Medicare Part A, which will be your primary insurance. “Primary” means that Medicare pays first, and then the employer insurance kicks in ...

How long do you have to keep HSA contributions?

Stop making contributions to your HSA at least six months before you sign up for Part B. And you’ll want to sign up for Medicare at least a month before you stop work ...

Does Medicare Part A cover my employer?

Because in some cases, Medicare Part A may cover what your employer plan does not. But as with so many aspects of Medicare, there are caveats, exceptions and potential pitfalls. If the employer has 20 or more employees: If your or your spouse's employer has 20 or more employees and a group health plan, you don't have to sign up for Medicare ...

Is Medicare cheaper than group health insurance?

If your employer (or your spouse’s employer) requires you to pay a large portion of the premium on your group health insurance, you may find Medicare cheaper and the coverage adequate. So compare your current coverage and out-of-pocket expenses — including premiums, deductibles, copays and coinsurance — with your costs and benefits under Medicare, which may also pay some expenses not covered by your group plan.

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