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working after 65 have health insurance at work...what to do about medicare

by Kirstin Sauer Published 2 years ago Updated 1 year ago
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If you work past 65 for a large employer with a group health plan, you can delay Medicare Part B until retirement without penalty. As I mentioned earlier, if you work past 65 for a small employer, you’ll need to enroll in Part A and Part B during your IEP.

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Can you get Medicare if you are still working?

You can get Medicare if you’re still working and meet the Medicare eligibility requirements. You become eligible for Medicare once you turn 65 years old if you’re a U.S. citizen or have been a permanent resident for the past 5 years. You can also enroll in Medicare even if you’re covered by an employer medical plan.

Will I be automatically enrolled in Medicare at 65?

Unless you have already been receiving benefits from Social Security or the Railroad Retirement Board at least four months before you turn 65, you will not be automatically enrolled in Medicare when you turn 65. You will need to sign up for Medicare yourself by applying with Social Security.

How to enroll in Medicare if you are turning 65?

  • You have no other health insurance
  • You have health insurance that you bought yourself (not provided by an employer)
  • You have retiree benefits from a former employer (your own or your spouse’s)
  • You have COBRA coverage that extends the insurance you or your spouse received from an employer while working

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Is Medicare coverage mandatory at age 65?

Medicare isn’t mandatory. There are options to delay coverage if you’re not ready when you first become eligible. But, if you don’t have creditable coverage, you’ll get stuck with penalties. If you’re not quite ready to join Medicare when you turn 65, there are some options to help delay your coverage.

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Is it a good idea to get Medicare if you're still working at 65?

It depends on how you get your health insurance now and the number of employees that are in the company where you (or your spouse) work. Generally, if you have job-based health insurance through your (or your spouse's) current job, you don't have to sign up for Medicare while you (or your spouse) are still working.

Can you have Medicare and employer insurance at the same time?

Yes, you can have both Medicare and employer-provided health insurance. In most cases, you will become eligible for Medicare coverage when you turn 65, even if you are still working and enrolled in your employer's health plan.

Do you get your Medicare taken away if you start working?

Many people believe that they will automatically lose their Medicare or Medicaid as soon as they start working. But that's a myth.

What happens if you plan to keep working after age 65?

If you continue to work after reaching age 65, you technically become eligible for Medicare, but you may or may not want to enroll right away. Here's the dilemma: Your employer must continue to cover all eligible workers, regardless of age, under its group health insurance—yet Medicare is telling you to sign up now.

What happens if you don't enroll in Medicare Part A at 65?

If you don't have to pay a Part A premium, you generally don't have to pay a Part A late enrollment penalty. The Part A penalty is 10% added to your monthly premium. You generally pay this extra amount for twice the number of years that you were eligible for Part A but not enrolled.

Do I automatically get Medicare when I turn 65?

Yes. If you are receiving benefits, the Social Security Administration will automatically sign you up at age 65 for parts A and B of Medicare. (Medicare is operated by the federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, but Social Security handles enrollment.)

What happens to my Medicare if I go back to work?

If you're going back to work and can get employer health coverage that is considered acceptable as primary coverage, you are allowed to drop Medicare and re-enroll again without penalties. If you drop Medicare and don't have creditable employer coverage, you'll face penalties when getting Medicare back.

Can Medicare be terminated?

You can voluntarily terminate your Medicare Part B (medical insurance). It is a serious decision. You must submit Form CMS-1763 (PDF, Download Adobe Reader) to the Social Security Administration (SSA). Visit or call the SSA (1-800-772-1213) to get this form.

Can I get Medicare Part B if I am still working?

You may be required to get Medicare Part B even when you're still working. There are two situations in which you must get Part B when you turn 65. If your employer has fewer than 20 employees. If you're covered by a spouse's employer, and the employer requires covered dependents to enroll in Medicare when they turn 65.

What happens if I return to work after retirement?

If you go back to work during the year you reach FRA, $1 in benefits will be deducted for every $3 you earn above a higher limit ($50,520 in 2021), but only counting earnings before the month you reach your FRA. You work all year and reach your full retirement age in June. From January 1 to May 31 you earned $15,000.

Does working after full retirement age increase Social Security benefits?

Your benefits may increase when you work: As long as you continue to work, even if you are receiving benefits, you will continue to pay Social Security taxes on your earnings. However, we will check your record every year to see whether the additional earnings you had will increase your monthly benefit.

How do you pay for Medicare Part B if you are not collecting Social Security?

If you have Medicare Part B but you are not receiving Social Security or Railroad Retirement Board benefits yet, you will get a bill called a “Notice of Medicare Premium Payment Due” (CMS-500). You will need to make arrangements to pay this bill every month.

What age do you have to be to get Medicare?

You'll need to know what your coverage options will be at age 65 and adjust your Medicare enrollment to meet your needs. One other situation that can cause confusion occurs if you leave your job with a "retiree" health care plan or coverage under COBRA (the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985).

How long can you enroll in Medicare if you don't have insurance?

If you don't enroll during your IEP because you have employer group health insurance coverage, you can enroll at any time you still have employer group coverage or within 8 months after the month your employment or group coverage ends. You'll need to know what your coverage options will be at age 65 and adjust your Medicare enrollment ...

When do you have to enroll in Medicare?

If you work for an employer with fewer than 20 employees, you need to enroll in Medicare at age 65, during your IEP. Medicare becomes the primary payer and your employer's insurance becomes secondary.

What are the pitfalls of working past 65?

5 pitfalls to avoid when working past age 65. 1. Not doing your homework: If you plan to work past age 65, or if your spouse or partner continues to work and covers you, you've got some research to do to make sure you know your options, the costs, and any restrictions. Your employer is required to offer you coverage, but is that your best option? ...

When does Medicare become the primary payer?

Medicare becomes the primary payer for your health care expenses once you reach age 65 and lose your employer group coverage (assuming you work for an employer with more than 20 employees). If you continue to work, your employer's insurance pays first.

When do you have to get Medicare?

If you work at a small employer plan, your employer is permitted to require you to get Medicare when you turn 65. At that time, Medicare will become your primary health insurer. Your employer also has the option to cancel your workplace plan or retain it as a secondary payer of covered insurance claims. This distinction is important because it can affect the package of Medicare plans you may need, especially whether you need a Medigap supplement plan.

How many employees can be covered by Medicare?

Medicare has different rules for employer health insurance plans depending on whether the plans cover more or fewer than 20 employers. We’ll call them “large” and “small” plans here. Even workplaces with fewer than 20 insured employees may qualify as large plans if they’re linked up with a multi-employer group plan.

What is a prohibition on Medicare?

This prohibition precludes the offering of benefits to Medicare beneficiaries that are alternatives to the employer’s primary plan (e.g., prescription drugs) unless the beneficiary has primary coverage other than Medicare. An example would be primary plan coverage through his/her own or a spouse’s employer.

What is the age limit for group health insurance?

If you’re 65 or older, have group health plan coverage based on your or your spouse’s current employment, and the employer has 20 or more employees, your group health plan pays first. If you’re 65 or older, have group health plan coverage based on your or your spouse’s current employment, and the employer has fewer than 20 employees, ...

Do you have to get Medicare at 65?

If an employer with a large health plan tells you that you must get Medicare at age 65, it is breaking the law. The single exception is for people turning 65 who have end-stage renal disease; they can be required to get Medicare. Employees with access to large employer-sponsored plans do not have to get Medicare, but they may do so if they wish.

Can you drop your employer's Medicare plan?

It is illegal for some employers to offer you any inducement to get Medicare and drop the employer’s plan. The story with small health plans is not so clear. In some cases, providing employees with financial help for their Medicare expenses is just fine.

Can an employer provide financial assistance for Medicare?

In the case of large employer plans, the answer is an unequivocal “no.”. Here’s the language from Medicare’s official rules.

What to do if you are 65 and still working?

If you’ll hit age 65 soon and are still working, here’s what to do about Medicare 1 The share of people age 65 to 74 in the workforce is projected to reach 30.2% in 2026, up from 26.8% in 2016 and 17.5% in 1996. 2 If you work at a company with more than 20 employees, you generally have the choice of sticking with your group health insurance or dropping the company option to go with Medicare. 3 If you delay picking up Medicare, be aware of various deadlines you’ll face when you lose your coverage at work (i.e., you retire).

What happens if you delay picking up Medicare?

It’s becoming a common scenario: You’re creeping closer to your 65th birthday, which means you’ll be eligible for Medicare, yet you already have health insurance through work.

How long does Medicare last?

Original, or basic, Medicare consists of Part A (hospital coverage) and Part B (outpatient and medicare equipment coverage). You get a seven-month window to sign up that starts three months before your 65th birthday month and ends three months after it.

How many employees can you delay signing up for Medicare?

If you work at a large company. The general rule for workers at companies with at least 20 employees is that you can delay signing up for Medicare until you lose your group insurance (i.e., you retire). At that point, you’d be subject to various deadlines to sign up or else face late-enrollment penalties.

What happens if you don't sign up for Part A?

If you don’t sign up when eligible and you don’t meet an exception, you face late-enrollment penalties. Having qualifying insurance — i.e., a group plan through a large employer — is one of those exceptions. Many people sign up for Part A even if they stay on their employer’s plan.

How old do you have to be to sign up for Medicare?

While workers at businesses with fewer than 20 employees generally must sign up for Medicare at age 65 , people working for larger companies typically have a choice: They can stick with their group plan and delay signing up for Medicare without facing penalties down the road, or drop the company option and go with Medicare.

Can you continue taking a specialty drug under Medicare?

On the other hand, if you take a specialty drug that is covered by your group plan, it might be wise to continue with it if that drug would be more expensive under Medicare. Some 65-year-olds with younger spouses also might want to keep their group plan.

How long does Medicare enrollment last?

The general rule for Medicare signup is that unless you meet an exception, you get a seven-month enrollment window that starts three months before your 65th birthday month and ends three months after it. Having qualifying insurance through your employer is one of those exceptions. Here’s what to know.

Can a 65 year old spouse get Medicare?

Some 65-year-olds with younger spouses also might want to keep their group plan. Unlike your company’s option, spouses must qualify on their own for Medicare — either by reaching age 65 or having a disability if younger than that — regardless of your own eligibility.

Can I delay Medicare if I lose my group insurance?

The general rule for workers at companies with at least 20 employees is that you can delay signing up for Medicare until you lose your group insurance (i.e., you retire). Many people with large group health insurance delay Part B but sign up for Part A because it’s free. “It doesn’t hurt you to have it,” Roberts said.

Does Medicare have a premium?

Part A has no premium as long as you have at least a 10-year work history of contributing to the program through payroll (or self-employment) taxes.

Do you have to sign up for Medicare at age 65?

Medicare may not be top of mind if you’re nearing the eligibility age of 65 and already have health insurance through your employer. However, it probably deserves some attention. While not everyone must sign up, many are required to enroll unless they want to face life-lasting late-enrollment penalties.

When do you get Medicare if you leave your job?

In that case, you’ll get an eight-month special enrollment period to sign up for Medicare if and when you leave your job or your employer stops offering coverage. It will start the month after you separate from your employer, or the month after your group health coverage ends – whichever happens sooner.

What happens if you don't sign up for Medicare?

Specifically, if you fail to sign up for Medicare on time, you’ll risk a 10 percent surcharge on your Medicare Part B premiums for each year-long period you go without coverage upon being eligible.

How long does it take to get Medicare?

Learn how to make sure they have health insurance once you’re enrolled. Medicare eligibility starts at age 65. Your initial window to enroll is the seven-month period that begins three months before the month of your 65th birthday and ends three months after it. Seniors are generally advised to sign up on time to avoid penalties ...

Do you have to double up on Medicare?

No need to double up on coverage. Many seniors are no longer employed at age 65, and thus rush to sign up for Medicare as soon as they’re able. But if you’re still working at 65, and you have coverage under a group health plan through an employer with 20 employees or more, then you don’t have to enroll in Medicare right now.

Does Medicare pay for Part A?

That said, it often pays to enroll in Medicare Part A on time even if you have health coverage already. It won’t cost you anything, and this way, Medicare can serve as your secondary insurance and potentially pick up the tab for anything your primary insurance (in this case, your work health plan) doesn’t cover.

How long before retirement should I look for Medicare?

If possible, I recommend starting your search about six to nine months before your retirement date. This gives you enough time to look into the plans that interest you.

How long do you have to be on Medicare to get Medicare Part B?

Many people don’t enroll in Medicare Part B until they stop working. Once you’re not covered under your employer plan (or your spouse’s), you’ll have eight months to enroll in Medicare Part B without paying a penalty. 2.

How long is the GI window for Medicare?

However, your GI window is only 63 days long, and does not apply to every Medigap plan. If you were eligible for Medicare prior to 2020, you can get GI for Plan A, B, C, F, K, and L. If you became eligible for Medicare in 2020 or later, the GI is available to you for Plan A, B, D, G, K, and L.

How long does it take to get backdated Social Security?

If you apply for Part A (and Social Security) and you are six months or more beyond your full retirement age, you will get six months of backdated benefits from Social Security. Since Social Security and Medicare Part A go hand-in-hand, this means your Part A effective date will also retroact six months.

How long is the Medigap open enrollment period?

Your Medigap Open Enrollment window is a 6-month period that begins the day your Part B starts.

Is Medicare Part D voluntary?

Medicare Part D. If you have delayed Medicare Parts A and B, you have also delayed Part D. Enrolling in Part D is voluntary but even if you do not currently take prescription drugs, it is in your best interest to enroll to avoid penalties for signing up late.

Can I get Medicare if I work past 65?

If you work past 65 for a large employer with a group health plan, you can delay Medicare Part B until retirement without penalty. As I mentioned earlier, if you work past 65 for a small employer, you’ll need to enroll in Part A and Part B during your IEP.

Is Medicare primary or secondary?

Even if you have group coverage, you will want to apply for Medicare and enroll in Parts A and B to avoid penalties (be careful if you have an HSA – more on that below.) Medicare will be primary, and your group coverage will be secondary. Many group coverage plans offer prescription drug coverage.

Is it a financial requirement to work past 65?

For many, working past 65 is a financial requirement to avoid scraping by and for others it is about fulfillment and not being ready to hang up their boots. If you are planning to remain in the workforce beyond 65, irrespective of why, you do not want to overlook navigating your enrollment into Medicare before or after retirement.

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